Okay, let's go with that then. I'm willing to concede the impossible--knowing a man's heart.
Forgetting about any other factors (economics, terror recruitment, etc.), let's assume that President Trump's comments are informed by racism. I still have yet to see a "racist policy" come to fruition since he took office.
Originally Posted by C.S. Lewis
You should have your eyes checked then Magoo.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure it is always right. -Learned Hand
"Jesus christ you are still THE WORST." -FirstBlood
Norway has more potential terrorists than Haiti.
Sunlight and dangerously overwhelming freedom.
Usually I try to play the other side with Trump here (too much lefty idealist back patting) but the sentiment of his statements are beyond racist and faring in to dehumanized evil territory imo. The shithole phraseology was the only actual redeeming quality of that thought (so insensitive it’s jarringly funny)
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My god. Denser than a dying star.
Go back to what Frog first wrote. The row here isn't that he made the observation that these countries are in the gutter. It's that, contextually, he stated that it was disagreeable that people from 'bad' countries were coming here, and then lamented that people from 'good' countries weren't. You think it's entirely coincidental that the bad example is largely brown people and the good example is largely white as the driven snow?
This "oh you just want him to be politically correct" stuff is goddamn horse puckey. If he was equally as blunt with all parties, with openly racist white folks as he was with their counterpoints, maybe there'd be a case there, but that's clearly not how it is. He has no problem embracing political correctness, 'waiting for all the facts to come in,' and gingerly eking out the most tepid of condemnations at metaphorical political gunpoint when David Duke endorses him or a bunch of white nationalists march through a town in his honor. But when minorities annoy him or... exist, oh ho ho, look at him go, you might not like what he says but you can't put a filter on this man!
No. He has a filter, and it's very clear who he employs it for and who he doesn't.
He probably is a racist, but I'm not sure this is so much an malicious statement as it is ignorant.
*this* is kind of how ceo types really see immigration. They don't give a shit about poor people coming to better themselves. They want to get skilled labor for less. That is all they're thinking about. "How do I get programmers for less than $35,000 a year?"
The racism comes in, in that he is assuming that a place like Haiti never ever produces skilled labor.
But a bigger issue is that he doesn't understand that our current citizenship system is already set up to reward citizenship to the best skilled laborers from around the world. We're already taking the cream.
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