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Thread: The Trump Presidency

  1. Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    I need to find some other podcasts to listen to. I’m so burned out of politics and it’s crept into everything. And it’s not that politics don’t matter. It’s that every political argument is a personal attack or the assumption politics is a 0 sum game where every gain, takes from the other side. Which if that were the case, how would we ever progress beyond hunter-gather status? It would just be millennia after millennia of one generation taking a horde of food from another without ever coming together to build anything.
    Honestly, I can only stand news-based podcasts for 20-30 minutes tops if its a very compelling story. The Daily is great for that, but I skip a lot of the Trump-cabinet episodes bc they are kind of boring. It's just vaguely non-partisan "this is what happened today." zzzz.
    There's been a little mini-streak of opioid epidemic episodes, those were really good. This American Life is like a pretty good documentary every week. The 2-3 hour podcasts that people do are too much, I don't have that much free time.
    Quote Originally Posted by dechecho View Post
    Where am I anyway? - I only registered on here to post on this thread

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    I just don’t think you can have a 24 hour news network with out a healthy amount of spin. Every media outlet is manipulative n some way, that’s true. I mean, i listen to The Daily once a day, and watch about 10-15 mins of the local news if I’m curious about the weather and like, fires. I’m sure both of those outlets have some sort of spin as well but I interact with them very minimally. On networks especially meant for news, and news all day, there HAS to be hyperbole in order to contend with what people get on Facebook and other internet outlets. It’s gotta be loud, obnoxious, taking a stance. They wouldn’t have a product to sell otherwise.
    I’m not a huge fan of watching the news and prefer to read. I enjoy BBC World News much more than any major American outlet but I try to mix up my sources. A downside to being off Facebook recently is missing such posts. I basically subscribe to any and everything and consume as much as I can, including ultra-conservative and other disgusting spins. It’s always good to hear as many perspectives as possible and when you involve yourself with those that are counter to your values, it helps you to understand better and know exactly what you’re dealing with. Too many political devotees have no idea who their “opposition” really is. I’ve always tried to stick with “if you can’t articulate your opponent’s standing in a way that makes sense to them, then you don’t belong engaging with them.” Unfortunately, when I do choose to engage with ideological bases that tend to run counter to my own, I often get called a dirty liberal and even sometimes a right-winger despite my lack of affiliation with any group or social/political ideology. It’s the whole “us versus them” mentality making things so difficult and until we learn to turn away from social grouping mechanisms in society and culture, our species will continue to miss out on our full potential.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by gameoverDude View Post
    Obama did nominate Merrick Garland on 3/16/16, right after Scalia passed away in office. The Republican majority refused to vote on a new justice until the next presidency. The Republicans' move was a damn cheap shot, which paid off for them- since Trump would end up nominating Gorsuch. It's the art of the steal.
    Right, but Obama could’ve pushed Garland through as a recess appointment, and then the Senate would have had to pass a motion to remove him, which I think the Democrats could’ve filibustered. But we already know McConnell would’ve just nuked the filibuster and we’d be right back where we are.

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    I like doing stuff with animals and kids

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Space Pirate Roberts View Post
    Right, but Obama could’ve pushed Garland through as a recess appointment, and then the Senate would have had to pass a motion to remove him, which I think the Democrats could’ve filibustered. But we already know McConnell would’ve just nuked the filibuster and we’d be right back where we are.
    No he couldn’t have. First of all he would have needed the senate to take a three day long recess which McConnell was purposely avoiding, and secondarily all they would need to do to terminate Garlands appointment is formally terminate the new senate session which again McConnell is free to do whenever he wants.

    McConnell blatantly stole a seat and you’re actually eating the both sides bullshit they’re trying to feed you. That is the biggest problem today, this fucking lie that they have played up that both sides are the problem.
    You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

  5. Cohen said that the "real truth" will help neither Trump nor Giuliani. Giuliani's asking Cohen to "tell the truth" about the Trump Tower meeting with Trump Jr. & Russian meddling, while adding "Everything has been a dead-end because there is nothing there". Sounds like Giuliani is the liar, just like a kid confronted about stealing the last of the cookies from the cabinet.

    Trump's "America First" mantra is just bullshit. Jingo bells, jingo bells, jingo all the way. Oh, not fun it is to hear Trump say M-A-G-A. Hey!

  6. Trump says the US is helping Thailand rescue the kids from the mine on the same day his administration says it won't meet a court-imposed deadline to reunite the children it separated from their families. Apparently, kids should only be returned to their parents in other countries.

  7. #6497
    Trump just likes children that could become future prostitutes and escorts to the wealthy.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Fe 26 View Post
    Trump just likes children
    Like all alt-right people.

  9. #6499
    Which plays back into their purity and virgin worship derived from them combining racism with religion.

  10. Aside from favoring that sitting presidents not have to face civil suits or criminal investigations while in office, Trump's SCOTUS pick also favors NSA surveillance and ISPs blocking whatever websites they choose.

    Fuck this guy.

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