It's discrimination to choose a steak over a hamburger for dinner, it's all in how you apply it that makes it good or bad.
"Question the world man... I know the meaning of everything right now... it's like I can touch god." - bbobb the ggreatt
I hope this starts happening everywhere.
Also more good news
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...mpression=true
womp womp motherfuckers
Last edited by Joust Williams; 24 Jun 2018 at 10:29 AM.
It's internally inconsistent to deny someone service because of something other than their behavioural conduct in the restaurant. Restaurants have an open door policy and invitation to service. Anything otherwise is just saying "You can discriminate, but only on the grounds that I deem important". If you support an individual restauranteur kicking people out on the premise of their beliefs or identity then that power should be absolute. The ultimate play out of this an infinitely fractured society cut along dozens of arbitrary differences amongst people.
I'd prefer it if they just made someone their order, served them, and moved on with their life. It's one thing to disagree with someone, it's another to treat them with such hostility as to deny a drink or meal. That's pretty shitty (and always has been). If you're really ballsy then tell them you don't support their administration and what they stand for while serving them.
Discrimination is being of an unjust imposition of difference where none is deserved. Discernment is the perceptive recognition of non-obvious underlying truth—you were hungry for a hamburger because you haven't had one in awhile, or just like it better than steak.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 24 Jun 2018 at 11:36 AM.
Originally Posted by rezo
It doesn't matter that they aren't the same. Someone being black and someone being queer isn't the same. The denial of service because reasons - regardless the parity (or otherwise) of those reasons - is contrary to the idea of a public-serving establishment. Before you get your panties in a bunch, hold on, see below.
That said:
Public establishments do reserve the right to deny service. In a normal society, I don't see why there need to be laws about it, or have to set precedent with lawsuits. Jill's Bakery, a public establishment, exercises their right to refuse service to a gay couple, let that couple sue. That couple should win. Jack's Bakery, also a public establishment, kicks out a person being abusive to the staff, let that person sue. That person should lose.
The problem that draws upon bbobb's thing is that, while what I just wrote is 100% reasonable and fair, courts won't decide that way every time. The "deeply held beliefs" justification is bullshit because if someone really cared about those beliefs more than they cared about money they would not run their businesses. Yet, we allow it to sway opinions.
You're probably tired of seeing me say it, but "deeply held beliefs" is a disingenuous defense for bullies so they can keep bullying people. It all comes back to jerkasses who get their rocks off on making other people feel bad, no matter how they dress it up.
"Question the world man... I know the meaning of everything right now... it's like I can touch god." - bbobb the ggreatt
Is the opposite not bullying? If you force someone who doesn’t like your actions to serve you, is that not harassment? If Bill Cosby and Donald Trump walked into every feminist bookstore and nail spa in Philly, drinking their fucking bellinis, demanding manis & pedis, is demanding that service their right?
Last edited by Doc Holliday; 24 Jun 2018 at 12:27 PM.
"Question the world man... I know the meaning of everything right now... it's like I can touch god." - bbobb the ggreatt
This comes back to what I've said about modern politics. Its all sports for the right. It's Sportspolitik. Its ok if the QB beats his wife if he brings home the gold.
And sportspolitik is one of the single most cancerous things for our government. If one side wins everything, we all lose. Government doesn't work like a sport. We aren't going to get a big cash reward in the mail if our side wins. We need functional compromises that allow me to drive tanks and little kids to get medical care, etc.
I’ve kicked 2 tables out of a restaurant before. One was because I heard the man saying “faggot” with a bunch of hate behind it, and the second was because they made the server so tense she came in the back and cried a little. In both instances I simply told the tables that their meal was on the house, and that they had to leave. Both got indignant and fought it, but I said it’s my restaurant, and I don’t want that kind of negativity in it.
Boo, Hiss.
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