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Thread: The Trump Presidency

  1. Quote Originally Posted by bbobb View Post
    What have I been telling you all about Andrew for years?
    I still maintain that you would like me if you got to know me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name View Post
    I see five sentences that address the question asked 0%.
    Hey...are you planning to run for office?
    No. (I’ll file that answer as 100% complete.)
    Quote Originally Posted by C.S. Lewis
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

  2. Trump is on board
    Without even bringing D v R up here (are you serious about this w.r.t. gun control?), Trump is on board with DACA too, supposedly. Yet the exact opposite keeps happening.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Joust Williams View Post
    Without even brining D v R up here, Trump is on board with DACA too, supposedly. Yet the exact opposite keeps happening.
    Congressional ineptitude at its finest. There was a great episode of This American Life just a few weeks ago that covered the DACA debacle. Republicans want it, Democrats want it, Trump wants it... and yet, somehow, nothing happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by C.S. Lewis
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post

    No. (I’ll file that answer as 100% complete.)
    I'll file your actions as 100%...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    If I wanted to bring Obama into the discussion, I would mention how our current president is doing far more than his predecessor ever did to end the violence.
    Far more? Name literally one thing Trump has done to "end the violence." "He said he doesn't like bump stocks" is not a thing he has done to end anything. He said he wanted to protect DACA literally one day before he decided he didn't.

    Who overwhelmingly rejected the 2012 bill which would have expanded background checks and outlawed the high capacity magazines used in the FL shooting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    Congressional ineptitude at its finest. There was a great episode of This American Life just a few weeks ago that covered the DACA debacle. Republicans want it, Democrats want it, Trump wants it... and yet, somehow, nothing happens.
    .... what

    the

    fuck

    Trump wants it? Then why did he reject three bipartisan bills that would have preserved it? He had the bill on his desk and said no. Trump.

    Come on, dude. If he wanted to protect DACA he could sign off on it right this second. DACA protection keeps getting to Trump's desk and stopping.

    OR!

    You don't even have to pass a law at all! You could just not deport these people! Who's perpetuating those deportations, my dude? Who could stop those deportations right now if he wanted to protect Dreamers? Schumer? Ryan? You really think ICE, the DoHS, and Nielson are deporting these people against Trump's will?

    Someone is rejecting an unbelievable amount of evidence to maintain precious ideological purity and can forget about having a second Cocoa Puff if it keeps up.
    .
    Last edited by A Robot Bit Me; 22 Feb 2018 at 01:48 PM.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    I’ve done this before.
    Really?

    If I’m meeting with a team I’m leading, or any other such setting, any my primary purpose is to receive feedback, sometimes I’ll jot in the margin “you’re here to listen.” The temptation to spout off solutions can be quite strong, and the reminder helps.
    Like, super really? I've never encountered anyone who has done what you're describing, so my initial reaction to that, were I an employer, would be to fire someone. I would not want to work with a person who needed to do that because, to me, that seems like they really don't care. In trying to give that behavior the benefit of the doubt, however, is it more common than my anecdata would make it seem? Am I being intolerant?

    I never mentioned Obama.
    Good old Technically Correct.™

    Quote Originally Posted by Fe 26 View Post
    Is the sentiment wrong though. Should everything or anything in the bill of rights be subject to the feelings of children?

    Or to protect a minority of children?

    Should our entire legal and economic system be shaped to protect .001 % of white children?

    Because that is where we are headed. Ban the porn to protect the kids. Ban the guns to protect the kids. Redo roads to protect the kids. Etc etc.

    KIDS KIDS KIDS KIDS KIDS
    You're missing the point, though. The core issue with SSJN's post is that, like a bunch of nerds playing D&D, jerks are finding loopholes (being bullied by sob stories? seriously?) and exploiting them. It's a major problem with America.

  7. #5497
    You're very polite. We both know it is mainly upper aged white middle class that behave that way. Someone asks them to be less of.a dick or share a bus seat and lord oh lord they're a victim because in America, being inconvenienced is the worst thing ever.

    Not that minorities are all blessed angels. They have plenty of members that have never felt hardship that will drag the experience of their elders through the mud for gain.

  8. I like analogies as much as the next guy, but uh...

    Quite a bit of difference between being a child and being a "victim" of a murderer in your school and being a "victim" of being asked to move on the bus...? Maybe bus etiquette isn't compatible with what we're talking about here?

  9. I think it's a great idea to have a list on hand to remind me of basic things in meetings, like
    -allow people to finish talking before I start talking
    -keep pants on
    -don't spit on anyone
    -speak english
    -focus on work

    It's a great productivity aid.

  10. #5500
    Quote Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me View Post
    I like analogies as much as the next guy, but uh...

    Quite a bit of difference between being a child and being a "victim" of a murderer in your school and being a "victim" of being asked to move on the bus...? Maybe bus etiquette isn't compatible with what we're talking about here?
    Im saying the offended old white guy is the one like the one being asked to move on the bus. Not the children.

    Someone's asking him to make small changes or just consider them and just the act of thinking about it makes him feel bad and thus a victim in his eyes.

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