Blade Runner 2049

**gamevet** · 08 Oct 2017, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Fe 26

This is not proof I'm not getting it.

You're lost in the details. My summary is valid. Its 2 hours of commentary on capitalism run rampant. Humans by Monsanto.

Maybe the two of you don't like that the franchise can be boiled down into two or three sentences, but that is on you. It doesn't mean there is anything else to get. The movies are dumber for the changes they made to the source material.

The question of "what is human" is far more interesting when they are part machine and part human. When they are humans grown in machines with slight alterations to DNA, much of that debate vanishes and instead you're left with a boring dystopia where a company can hold ownership over humans because of copyright and ambiguous interpretations on what constitutes citizenship. Stories about the Ship of Theseus are far more interesting than "hey, capitalism is dicks"

You're not getting it, because they are not machines. Reviewers tried to call them Androids, when that was never what they were. They are genetically engineered beings that are pretty much programmed by their DNA.

**YellerDog** · 08 Oct 2017, 10:36 PM

They have fake memories, like Wolverine (noted non-robot)

**Fe 26** · 08 Oct 2017, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by gamevet

You're not getting it, because they are not machines. Reviewers tried to call them Androids, when that was never what they were. They are genetically engineered beings that are pretty much programmed by their DNA.

Um, yeah. I'm saying they aren't machines which makes the story worse than the source story.

**gamevet** · 08 Oct 2017, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Fe 26

Um, yeah. I'm saying they aren't machines which makes the story worse than the source story.

I'll just leave this here.

**Fe 26** · 08 Oct 2017, 11:47 PM

Do you slowpokes think the discussion is still about what a replicant is?

Its moved on to being about how shitty the idea of them being grown slaves is for the franchise.

**Dunlap** · 08 Oct 2017, 11:51 PM

No you’re being dumb to whine about this and slavery and capitalism. This is the setting of the world but the stories of these movies revolve around the human condition and what it means to be human and nihilism and self determinism.