Originally Posted by
A Robot Bit Me
Lobbying is a necessary part of a representative democracy, isn't it? It needs groups that say, "You are representing our local interests in a bigger collective. And here are those interests." Because a representative can't listen to the interests of every single constituent, representative democracy requires interest groups. And groups are always going to exclude people; a group isn't just defined by who's in it, but who's not.
And if icarus's point is "then maybe representative democracy (which is based on appeasing the interest of the majority (which is usually self-interest (which is usually financial interests))) sucks," then I'm not kicking him out of bed. Just saying you kind of have to throw out the baby to throw out the bathwater here.
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