James Bond

**Dunlap** · 08 Oct 2018, 11:22 AM

Watch the scene in context of the movie and maybe you'll think differently.

**Some Stupid Japanese Name** · 08 Oct 2018, 11:24 AM

pfft, context.

**gamevet** · 08 Oct 2018, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dunlap

Watch the scene in context of the movie and maybe you'll think differently.

They were working out their sexual tension with a little friendly scuffle.

**Josh** · 08 Oct 2018, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dunlap

Watch the scene in context of the movie and maybe you'll think differently.

What if I already have?

**gameoverDude** · 08 Oct 2018, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rumpy

Moonraker and Quantum of Solace are the ones I consider terrible. Tomorrow Never Dies is rather oof too. Saying they are a product of their time is really the best way of putting it. Going back decades with these is interesting in watching how films were made in each era. I watched Dr. No in theatres a few months ago and it's kinda amazing how slow it is (in every regard) compared to the last 20 years or so of cinema. There are surprising bursts of gore here and there too. I think it's in HMSS where a guy runs into a snow plow and a gyster of blood shoots out. IIRC one of the Timothy Dalton ones has a meaty head explosion.

Goldeneye is easily the best Pierce Brosnan one and Casino Royale and Skyfall are the best of Daniel Craig. I love Skyfall.

That Dalton one is Licence to Kill. Not bad. They show a more brutal side of 007 here, & it is one of the more graphic ones.
Goldeneye is great... maybe one of my top 3 favorite JB movies. One part I loved in Goldeneye was where 007 asks "Who's strangling the cat". In Soviet Russia, cat strangle you!

**YellerDog** · 08 Oct 2018, 10:38 PM

Goldeneye was great. I think it's the only good Brosnan one, but it's really good.

**Dolemite** · 09 Oct 2018, 12:05 PM

I love the Bond films but as it has already been pointed out, they're very period-specific and need to be watched within that context. I grew up with Roger Moore and he was always "my" Bond, but in retrospect many of his films are relentlessly campy. I saw the Connery stuff later on and appreciated their slightly harder edge, but they were pretty shitty in their portrayals of most of the women, like in Goldfinger when Bond needs to engage in "man talk" and smacks a bikini-clad girl on the ass to shoo her off.

I recall Moore smacking around a few women as well, in addition to all of the rampant insta-fucking of random, nameless vaginas that's a Bond trademark. I was actually pleasantly shocked that this aspect was kept to a minimum in Casino Royale.

Originally Posted by Dunlap

Watch the scene in context of the movie and maybe you'll think differently.

Yeah, it's still creepy. Pussy Galore was originally written as a lesbian in Ian Fleming's novel, and the general disinterest in men aspect carried over into the movie pretty strongly up until that point of that scene.

I remember watching a documentary on Bond Girls, hosted by a former Bond Girl who appeared quite bitter from her experience, that was fairly critical of how many of the female characters were portrayed and the overall rapey aspects of the films, but I can't find it. There's one called Bond Girls Are Forever, but after watching a few clips on YouTube that doesn't appear to be it (unless I'm remembering it differently).