Damn that N64 controller !! or My Sin & Punishment adventure

[Tsubaki]

??????? If you're not already doing what Sleeve is telling you to, with regards to the controller, then you don't know how to hold it?

[Despair]

I thanked him not in regards on how to hold a controller, but for tips on fighting the Boss

[SearchManX]

I'm not exactly sure what your problem with Sin & Punishment is, because the only time I've played is 2-player with my brother where he moved the characters and I aimed and shoot.

Do you have to use both the d-pad and the analog pad normally? Eeek.. that sounds bad. As for other N64 games that require either the D-pad or Analog stick, the N64 control pad is perfect. I really couldn't imagine playing N64 games any other way.

I still wished the Z-trigger was under the controller on the GC and not near the R-button but things could be worse.

[Glass Joe]

Hey Despair, are you saying you're using the Dpad to move left and right? Does that put your right hand on the analog? Sleeve boy was absolutely right about the left hand on the analog and the right hand on the C buttons. It becomes second nature after a short while. Don't forget double taps left or right for a quick roll and you also have a double jump. Aim the sights at the boss and use the sword to smack the rockets back his way.

[Tsubaki]

Ohhh... now that i reread Despair's post, you guys are right... he IS holding the darn controller wrong...

[Despair]

I was holding it right. It gets time to get used to it a little, but still it very uncomfortable. But the game itself is awesome. Flying level where you battle planes and ships was unbelivable and fun. I got to the part where you have to stop the giant bullet that was fired at Saki, but I kept dying, since I never have enough time to destroy it, nor the aiming cursor is very responsive on following the target. Any ideas on that part??

Also that level where you have to chase thet Insect like monster that rolling the ball with your friend inside, was very tough. Again, because of control layout. After dying for like 6 times, me and DJ teamed up, I controlled aiming shooting and jumping, and he was strafing, and that way we made it through

[Tsubaki]

Its very cumbersome to try controlling your character target cursor with analog stick, and move left to right with d-pad, because of the position of d-pad on the controller

The quote above makes me believe you're not holding the controller correctly. You should be using the yellow arrow buttons to move left and right. Not the d-pad at all.

It would worked better if N64 pad had 2 analog sticks, simular to PS2 Dual Shock, or Xbox controller, that way, atlest you would have been able to aim and and dodge without strain on your fingers.

Again, if that's what you're wishing, you're playing it wrong...
See, what you're asking for is one hand to control movement, one hand to control cursor. Which is very reasonable. But as it is, no wonder you have a hard time jumping, and very difficult access to the lockon/non-lockon.

With the default control scheme, holding the controller the right way, your left hand is moving the cursor and shooting. Your right hand has immediate access to jumping, moving left/right, strafing, and the target-switching.

I don't know... if you are holding it the right way, I'm not sure how you can really have these many problems if you've gone so far. The experience is intense once it becomes intuitive and you're aiming when you want and making your character do what you want.

Tip: When you use lockon, it's a lot slower than the normal cursor. That's why you should use the red cursor as much as possible (or simply throughout the entire game), because it does far more damage in the same time period.

Tip: For that boss, use red cursor entire way and remember for this and nearly every boss: The Sword is the Key to the Game.

[MechDeus]

It's best to become accustomed to the non-lock-on aiming cursor (red), as it deals out three times as much damage. There is only one boss in the game I have trouble with and need to use the lock-on, and that's the final form of the train boss. All the high-speed bouncing and the tons of balls to dodge requires me to focus on living and slap the lock-on on the bouncy ball.

The whip boss I also found pretty easy, I don't even really notice him. I just run back and forth shooting and jumping.

What you also might to do (this'll build up a trigger finger if you don't have one) is to never hold down the trigger, but always tap it rapidly. That way if things get close enough you'll automatically slash them without having to pay too much attention, and will keep shooting otherwise.

Part of aiming, especially later on, is simply learning enemy patterns. The slow cursor dictates that you need to know how certain things will happen and the order enemies move in so as to do well.

[burgundy]

This game is perfect for the N64 controller. You do know that if you decide to move your character with the d-pad, you do that with your left hand, right?

Glad to see your enjoying the game. If the pad is bothering you that much, I'm sure you can find a Dual Shock converter.

[Epsilon-2]

Hello -
i'm with you despair - the N64 controler is very poor - what i did (just for S and P) is buy the some what funny looking double hinged controler (as opposed to normal 3 hinged) - the analog stick is now next to the d-pad (like a PS1/2 controler) and the other keys remain the same on the right hand side - i bet you can find one of these for $5 at any used game store - i wouldnt play S and P without it - hope this helps -------------- joe zovko