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Thread: First Person Shooters

  1. I dig FPS's. I just dont have the PC that I would need to properly run the good ones, and on consoles they tend to bore me.

    I think, that as a genre, FPS's have alot of room for improvement(from what I've played). I like what Duality is doing with its mercenary type character. Third person controlling, but whe you shoo, you have a seperate "pop-up window", in which you shoot in first person. That seems to be the best way to have accurate controls, and accurate shooting. Something I sorely wish they would have done on Metroid.

    I think it would rock to have a game like Cannon Spike, with a first person pop up window. Would be friggen intense.

    Z-roe
    A is for action

  2. I enjoy the odd bit of FPS action, but I'm not the biggest fan of the genre. My major interest in FPS games comes from the stealth-heavy, mission-based, single player experiences offered in console FPS games like Goldeneye 007 and Medal of Honor (probably my favourite FPS games to dates). I do enjoy a little bit of Q3A, UT or CS in multiplayer, but I'm usually fairly cold towards PC FPS games...especially in single player. For some reason, they just don't interest me.

  3. I love me some FPS goodness.

    P.S. Jumping flash isn't a shooter, just as Halo isn't a platformer. Halo doesn't have platforming elements. What it does have are the elements indicitave of an FPS. Just because I have to climb a ladder or jump a small gap doesn't make it have "platforming elements." And just because you shoot in a platformer doesn't make it have "shooting elements."

    Certain qualities are shared among games, but it's the combination of those shared qualities, along with what qualities are focused on that makes a game what it is.

    Kingdom Hearts: RPG with action elements? Action RPG? Action with RPG elements?

    All of those descriptions are crap. It's an action game because of it's gameplay focuses. Just because you gain levels, doesn't make it an RPG, or have RPG elements. Menu systems are also not solely indicitave of the RPG genre. It's a game, and as such all of it's mechanations are shared/borrowed from the great big pool of "Video Game Concepts and Mechanics." Shooters focus on certain things, while action games focus on other certain things. They can both include common elements (i.e. menus, level building, even shooting), but it's the way they focus differently on those same elements that defines the genre they belong to.
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  4. Originally posted by Z-roe
    I think it would rock to have a game like Cannon Spike, with a first person pop-up window. Would be friggin' intense.
    Damn, that sounds good!

    Personally, I don't care much for FPS's besides System Shock 2, Deus Ex, and No One Lives Forever. As you might imagine, it was not the first-person shooting that attracted me to those games either - it was the strategy, the storylines, and in NOLF's case, the humor.

    MDK2 and Thief II are sitting in my Pile of Shame. I'd like to play both, but I would prefer to play the shorter one first. Anyone know which will take less time to complete?

  5. MDK2 is a bitch. Very fun, but very unforgiving.

    I've never played Thief 2.
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  6. I generally like my games on the unforgiving side, all other factors being equal.

    Still, it's not fun getting hit from behind and trying to twirl around only to have your meets-the-minimum-requirements PC choke on you. But I'm sure that's not the kind of unforgiving you meant. (Maybe I will borrow my brother's Dreamcast copy, just in case. ^_^)

    I love NOLF, but sometimes that sucker dragged too much. And I don't like FPS's enough to buy a new computer just for them.

    Ehh, maybe Metroid Prime will sell me on FPS's once and for all.

  7. I mentioned Serious Sam back on the first page. X-Box version coming soon, everyone go buy. No idea how it'll work with a controller rather than mouse/keyboard, but it's Serious Sam and therefore the proper form for FPS to take.

    James

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    Considering that the Serious Sam games are budget-priced on PC, I hope they don't up the price for console release.

    I don't think Serious Sam will translate well to a controller due to its fast-paced nature.

  9. Head to www.croteam.com and check it out. The update is from way back in August, but it looks like they're doing a good job on it. Online play, 36 levels, etc. Auto-aiming is a questionable addition, but I don't see how it would be playable on a gamepad without.

    And yes, it is a full $50. I know the two PC games were budget, $40 for both, but I don\'t think $50 is too much for a 36 level game with online play.

    James

  10. I love FPSes. Probably my favorite PC genre.

    Thief, System Shock (2), Deus Ex... All brilliant. As is Half-Life, Doom, and Quake.

    Because I'm stuck on dial-up, however, most of my FPSing happens to take place at LAN parties. Which isn't a bad thing.

    It all started with Wolf3D on my brother's 486. Now that was incredible. I'd sneak into his room whenever he wasn't home, and play that game to no end.

    Then came DOOM, first on a friend's 386, then on my "home" laptop. I enjoyed the hell out of it, even if I was terrible. Hey, I was a young kid at the time.

    Later on, I purchased my first PC. Hahaha, an IBM Aptiva with an AMD K-6 166, 16 megs of RAM, a 2 gig HD, and an ATI RAGE II video card. With my PC, I picked up Duke Nukem 3D... Which was what really got me into FPSes. I played it online, in parts, but mostly enjoyed the single player and the modding.

    A while after, I moved on to Quake 2. Yes, that's right, I pretty much skipped Quake. Though, it was Q2 online play that increased my interest in the genre exponentially. Sure, I was on dial-up, and yes, I needed to play the game in 320x200 software, but I loved it.

    Some years later, a friend of mine got a P2 400 w/VooDoo Banshee. And Half-Life.

    Finally, I constructed my current PC, which is rather poor, for today's standards. Quake 3, UT, and Half-Life were the FPS trinity, at the time.

    Now, I'll play any and all FPSes at LAN parties. But my favorite would have to be Tribes 2. Nothing beats a game of T2, when teamwork is actually present.

    Alright, let's not start arguing genres again. Most of them are pretty badly defined to begin with, and they tend to differ from person to person anyway.
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