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« on: 02/12/09 at 11:38 AM »

A critique includes both positive and negative points based on informed judgement, e.g. an instructor's comments on a student's creative effort.

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Also realistically however also the workers behave. If treat the working fellows badly and prey you it just as out of like our boss us, a strike, that can paralyze then with something pitch an entire branch of industry and can cost therefore a fortune, threatens in the [idiom]. As a stood dictator, you have naturally different possibilities to solve such a problem: The most unfavorable method from the viewpoint of the ruler is, to give way the demands for raises or other trifles, to admit itself therefore mistake. That comes not at all in question. It is sympatheticer to wait simply until the breadth drivers that would blow, therefore the money goes out, and it realize to sit at the shorter lever. He who would not like to raise this patience, sends the military to the need simply loose, that knows, how one quickly solves strike problems. The radical solution lessens however el Presidentes appearance at the population. They do not see should lead therefore, to
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« Reply #1 on: 02/12/09 at 12:07 PM »

By guess and intuition, let's rewrite it.

The workers in 'an entire branch of industry' will constitute an actual "organized labor union" capable of going out on strike. Will that be both a kind of workers and/or a whole production chain? Will Farmers be included to go on strike?

>>This will be different from the "brain eating plague" of T1 which was actually a program weakness.<<

El Presidente is management and has a few choices:
  • Meet the union's demands, thereby looking weak
  • Sit tight to see if the workers go broke before you do
  • Send in the army & police to break the union
Each choice has different effects on the rest (others not in the striking union) of the population.

If this elaboration can be programmed to work correctly, it can only be cheered along. It would be a magnificant extension of the independent personality of the individual Tropicans.

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« Reply #2 on: 02/12/09 at 03:44 PM »

I agree
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« Reply #3 on: 04/27/09 at 08:58 AM »

El Presidente's choices:
>>1. Meet the union's demands, thereby looking weak.
    >>>Least desireable -- encourages other unions & lowers respect level.
>>2. Sit tight to see if the workers give up before you go broke.
    >>>Most desireable -- doesn't change respect level.
>>3. Send in the army & police to break the union.
    >>>Works quickly & maintains cash flow BUT really lowers respect level.

One wonders if this would not also be a situation where El Presidente could give a speech to the public and/or the strikers.

It would also be interesting if after a period of time under option #2, the communist/socialist faction/party would/could call either a secondary boycott or a general strike. Either of those would force El Presidente's hand on calling out the army.

Will the building options say: "Union Rules" rather than "easy does it"?

I wonder where this stands in development.
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« Reply #4 on: 06/13/09 at 02:50 PM »

Recently El_Prez twittered that there is a reason the default on factories, construction offices and teamster offices is "sweat shop".

I hope we will be told sometime rather than having it be a mystery forever.

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« Reply #5 on: 08/14/09 at 12:21 PM »

Developer Interview - Part 3 posted on the Kalypso forum today:

Question #6. stefan-313 (German):
Will people go on strike if they're dissatisfied?

Yes, there are both organized strikes and individual protesting citizens. El Presidente is able to interact with the protesters personally and calm them down. He can also choose how to respond to an organized strike - send the army to quell it down, wait it out, or just meet the demands of the protesters.


I guess we did not understand that T1 Protesters were strikers. My T1 observation of "Protesters" was that El Prez would have to move with the speed of light to find and get to them before they faded back into the general population.

Although we now know that there can be an "organized" strike -- we still do not know the Union basis of such strikes! Or is it just a random gathering of protestors?

We didn't learn much more from the release than we knew before. But the key issue of whether the workers will act jointly and/or how they will group if they do so -- is  still up in the air.

Maybe the Beta Testers know.
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