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« on: 05/22/09 at 08:37 AM »

T1 gave us Lou Bega.

David Lubega (a.k.a. Lou Bega) (born April 13, 1975), is an Italo-German and Ugandan musician famous for his song "Mambo No. 5". This song is a remake of the Perez Prado instrumental from 1952. Bega added his own words to the song and sampled the original version extensively. In the computer game Tropico, Lou Bega is one of the characters a player can choose as their dictator persona. He was included as part of a licensing deal that also saw Bega's song "Club Elitaire" integrated into the German release of Tropico.

T1 also gave us Palido Jaquar.

Claremore, OK, resident John Grant will be featured as a character in the upcoming PC game, Tropico. ... Grant entered and won the "You Rule" contest sponsored through developer PopTop and publisher God Games. He will appear in the game as the dictator character, Palido Jaguar. Tropico has gone gold and will ship to stores nationwide on April 24, 2001.

A shortage of fun female dictators ??

Maria do Carmo Miranda da Cunha, better known by the stage name Carmen Miranda (February 9, 1909 – August 5, 1955) was a Portuguese-born Brazilian samba singer and actress most popular in the 1940s and 1950s. Her family moved to Brazil shortly after her birth. Famous for promoting Brazil in her role as an entertainer, Miranda was a Broadway star, one of the highest-paid artists in Hollywood, and by some accounts the highest-earning woman in the United States. She achieved stardom in motion pictures, cast in musical roles and often wearing a hat topped with tropical fruit, most notably in The Gang's All Here, which has become her iconic visual identity. She is considered the precursor of Brazil's tropicalismo.

Her Hollywood image was one of a generic Latinness that blurred the distinctions between Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico as well as between samba, tango and habanera. It was carefully stylized and outlandishly flamboyant. She was often shown wearing platform sandals and towering headdresses made of fruit, becoming famous as "the lady in the tutti-frutti hat." However there were times that Miranda performed barefoot on stage due to the fact she could move more easily in bare feet than the towering platform sandals. Miranda's enormous, fruit-laden hats are iconic visuals recognized around the world. These costumes lead to Saks Fifth Avenue developing a line of turbans and jewelry inspired by Carmen Miranda in 1939. Many costume jewelry designers made fruit jewelry also inspired by Carmen Miranda which is still highly valued and collectible by vintage and antique costume jewelry collectors. Fruit jewelry is still popular in jewelry design today. Much of the fruit jewelry seen today is often still fondly called "Carmen Miranda jewelry" because of this.

Brazilian singer Ney Matogrosso's album Batuque brings the period and several of Miranda's early hits back to life in faithful style. Caetano Veloso paid tribute to Miranda for her early samba recordings made in Rio when he recorded "Disseram que Voltei Americanizada" on the live album Circuladô Vivo in 1992. He also examined her iconic legacy of both kitsch and sincere samba artistry in an essay in the New York Times. Additionally, on one of Veloso's most popular songs, "Tropicalia", Veloso sings "Viva a banda da da da....Carmem Miranda da da da" as the final lyrics of the song. Singer/songwriter Jimmy Buffett included a tribute to Carmen Miranda on his 1973 album A White Sport Coat and a Pink Crustacean, entitled "They Don't Dance Like Carmen No More." In the early 1970s a novelty act known as Daddy Dewdrop had a top 10 hit single in the US titled "Chick-A-Boom," one of Carmen's trademark song phrases, although the resemblance ended there. The band Pink Martini recorded "Tempo perdido" for their Hey Eugene! Album on 2007.

Haemimont should be able to handle the presidental hats for a female president who is advertising the fruit of Tropico to the world. Perhaps they could even include an appropriate samba dance with music and singing.

In any case, this is a nomination for Carmen Miranda to join the pantheon of Tropican Dictators.


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« Reply #1 on: 05/22/09 at 09:22 PM »

now why can't they just give us a wardrobe of faces and outfits to chose from instead of being stuck with historical people? Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: 05/23/09 at 08:14 AM »

now why can't they just give us a wardrobe of faces and outfits to chose from instead of being stuck with historical people?

I suppose that since there is going to be an avatar for each dictator which the player can move around the map -- the whole set-up will be very, very different from T1.

Even in T1, ten of the pre-programmed dictators were wholly fictitious (so far as I have learned).

In any case, it is far from a burning issue. I suppose I should have posted about Carmen Miranda under the Tropican Film Fest thread.

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« Reply #3 on: 05/23/09 at 11:21 AM »

The developers and publishers may find it far to their advantage to use historical people -- or at least public figures whose activities have placed them (so to speak) in the public domain.

Otherwise, their lawyers will advise them to use non-sense names such as "Coconut Kid" for the prominent characters -- or else they run all sorts of legal risks.

How would you like to "google" yourself one day and find that you showed up as a brutal dictator on a Caribbean island?

I "googled" the ten fictional dictators from T1 and most had 'Tropico' related hits.

Maria Soldano is a somewhat common Italian name; one has written a popular novel.

Ranaldo 'Poppy' Ortez: a 'Big Poppy' Ortez was a baseball star (MN Twins).

Sancho Baraega: "Baraga" gets many hits.

Pepe Gomez: leader of a "Latin Hard Rock" group; perhaps "Swan Fungus". I'm always unsure of which is the musical piece and which is the group.

Donnita Gonzales: perhaps some 'Face Book' hits.

Hernando Blanco: Fernando Blanco got more hits.

Nando Pedro-Sylva.

Renata L. Feldmeyer: drop the "L." and you will find her all over.

Leo de LaSalle: You will probably find him coaching athletics in a Chicago Roman Catholic high school.

Antonio el Bombastico: is worth a chuckle. There seem to be young, hardcore Marxists looking for him; and he may actually be out there.

@ Jakius, do you suggest that names are not needed for the "wardrobe of faces and outfits" of T3 dictators?

Perhaps the inventory should be simply males one thru ten and females one thru five? Whilst the player has to fill in a name.

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Then we can debate about the visuals and the animations!
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« Reply #4 on: 05/23/09 at 03:14 PM »

That'd be nice, and maybe some pre-made if we feel lazy. Tongue

Course, I would like to have a mix of outfits and figures, even something simple like

Faces: Choose Youthful (Kennedyesque), Elder Statesman (Old), Revoultionary (bearded, flowing hair Che style) and Mysterious (Aviators and stache)

then

Outfits: Military, Powersuit, Commoner, Traditional.

Something like that.
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