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« on: 04/07/01 at 09:29 PM »

hey. I heard that there will be 6 diff. scenairios. Does anyone know what these scenairios will be and what the objectives are?
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« Reply #1 on: 04/08/01 at 03:15 AM »

They have to keep something a secret -  but I think there was something about this in the Tropico FAQ.

Maybe not?
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« Reply #2 on: 04/08/01 at 03:58 AM »

i THINK, they will include real life dictators in the game.

since the game will include a map editor will we be able to create scenarios with triggers for events? like for example, if the year is 19xx, a certain event will happen.
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« Reply #3 on: 04/08/01 at 11:19 AM »

They're including some real life dictators, like Castro, Evita Peron, and Batista

Presumably, their respective countries/eras would then be scenarios, but they may only be included as "stock" dictators to help people get going quickly
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« Reply #4 on: 04/08/01 at 03:35 PM »

I heard that they were varied.  Everything from getting 20,000,000 in the swiss bank account to recovering after a revolution to getting a certain amount of people.  Kind of like rollercoaster tycoon.
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« Reply #5 on: 04/08/01 at 08:43 PM »

True, but different from Rollercoaster Tycoon because you can also create your own scenario, edit your own maps, and play in a "sandbox" mode Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: 04/08/01 at 08:58 PM »

Dream scenario:

USA and USSR both get mad at you and invade you at the same time!!!

A minor incident leads to trouble, and soon both armies are shooting at each other!!!

Both sides launch all nuclear missles and destroy most of the world, except Tropico, which is not worth the price of one warhead.

The USA and USSR armies are stranded without countries to go back to so they lay down their arms, shake hands, and decide to settle permanently in Tropico as civillians.

You collect all their sophisticated weapons and give them to your army.  In gratitude, the army swears alliegence to you as dictator-for-life.

Floods of immigrants flood in from the north.  You accept only beautiful young women, and turn away the rest....

Each female immigrant must pass a medical inspection, which you personally administer....

Uh....I'm getting carried away so I guess I'll stop now.... Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: 04/09/01 at 06:01 AM »

They have already real life dictators in the game which you can choose.I heard that there will be 6 to 8 scenarios.Is that right or not?
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« Reply #8 on: 04/09/01 at 10:30 AM »

You can choose between:
-Fidel
-Bush jr.
-Poetin
-Adolf
-The pope

I don't know who will be the other dictators
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« Reply #9 on: 04/09/01 at 10:50 AM »

hey blackrook, as head of the F.B.I. , im in charge of inspecting all beautiful yet very desperate women who want into tropico. you can inspect the shemales.
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« Reply #10 on: 04/09/01 at 10:55 AM »

What is a shemale? Is it what I think it is?
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« Reply #11 on: 04/09/01 at 11:35 AM »

Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yes
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« Reply #12 on: 04/09/01 at 05:20 PM »

I moved this thread here since I thought it would be a good start for the scenarios board.  So feel free to continue posting.  We need some good scenario ideas.
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« Reply #13 on: 04/10/01 at 03:14 AM »

I'd like a scenario based on this old Kurt Vonnegut story I found years ago.  Basically it was about this American who becomes a dictator of an island.  Mainly because no one else really could be bothered to do it.  San Lorenzo had no real industry.  No real beauty, and no real agriculture.  In other words, it was subsistence level.  It would be an interesting challenge to make the island worth something out of nothing.

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« Reply #14 on: 04/10/01 at 03:54 AM »

Now that sounds like one I would enjoy.  But I seem to do everything in the reverse of that.  Seems I can make anything worthless. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: 04/10/01 at 04:32 AM »

I think a 'William Walker' scenario would prove very amusing.

To explain. William Walker was a U.S adventurer who lead an army of mercenaries into Nicaragua, in support of the Liberals. He overthrew the ruling  Conservatives in Granada, Nicaragua with a force of only 58 soldiers of fortune, plus some Liberal troops.

He then installed himself as ruler of much of Nicaragua, albeit briefly, subsequently being removed from office by a combination of external forces.

Your task would begin when you are installed in office and must hold off the rebels/conservatives and outside governments from Day 1, with limited resources and fragmented economy.

It would add an interesting historical scenario and fit in very easily with Tropico. Oh, just make sure you don't follow Walkers example and find yourself up against a firing squad.
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« Reply #16 on: 04/10/01 at 05:17 AM »

Cool ideas Mr.P and Eddy!  I like the idea of taking an island worth "nothing" - but the twist I would add is that there is one thing that could turn the island around, but you don't know what the one thing is.  It could be a natural spring that offers a healing effect and increases your tourism, it could be the fact that the island is perfectly suited for coffee plantations, or that the island has an inexhaustable supply of bauxite.  You would need to discover what the one thing is, but risk losing money and time if you choose the wrong venture to invest in.
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« Reply #17 on: 04/10/01 at 06:47 AM »

Another one I'd like to see is an island that is say one or two crops, with no mineral wealth.  You have a volatile source of income because the price changes, and the weather changes.  You'd have to plan carefully to avoid a string of bad years in a row from destroying your island.

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« Reply #18 on: 04/10/01 at 08:51 AM »

i know a good scenario idea. You start off with a large population (250?) and you have a large loyal army. But everyone else hates your guts, stability should be as low as possible and your goal is to stay in power for 10-15 years. there will prob be rebellions or revolts every year. I might try to make this scenario when i get the game ( after ive played it for a month though)
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« Reply #19 on: 04/10/01 at 02:06 PM »

then you could just kill everyone
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« Reply #20 on: 04/10/01 at 03:04 PM »

Love the idea's guys.

Your idea Eddy would really give a flavour of most Latin America nations in the 50's.
One or two primary crops, which the majority of their government revenue was derived. And in which the prices fluctuated wildly, just for added misery.

Hmm, I like that one. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: 04/10/01 at 05:29 PM »

I hope you guys know how to use the editor. If the game ships with only half a dozen scenarios, we'll be needing yours pretty soon. And if Tropico follows in the RT2 mold, the player created scenarios will be more entertaining than the included ones.  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: 04/10/01 at 09:28 PM »

As you may have been able to tell, I prefer the more "peaceful" scenarios.  This one is no exception.  I like the idea of a tiny island where you might have a valuable resource, like gold.  But at heart you are an environmentalist.  Your people are also environmentally minded (perhaps they are educated as well).

Here's the dilemna for you budding Castros.  Do you exploit the gold to make your island wealthy, but polluted?  Or do you keep your island relatively poor, but happy?  You can't have both because the island is small and mining will definitely be noticed.

Perhaps to add to this, you would need to have a large bank account.  Again, do you mine the gold, or do you become corrupt and skim of your people?

Oh man, I think I will have more fun with the editor than with the game.   Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: 04/10/01 at 09:46 PM »

And your point is, Eddy?  Some of my purchasing decisions concerning games have been decided by whether or not the game has an editor!

How about this for a scenario idea?  I posted this a long time ago, but I think it bears repeating...

You begin with a large island with a modest population, lots of factories, mines, farms.  The island is going great and everyone is happily employed and living in apartment buildings and nice homes, with lots of money pouring in.  

The challenge is to turn this industrial gem into a tourist attraction in a set amount of time.  This would require a lot of juggling since you'd need to re-employ your workers and move/close a lot of the factories and mines so the tourists don't get upset.
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« Reply #24 on: 04/10/01 at 11:31 PM »

My point was that usually people buy the game for the game.  It didn't mean anything.

Anyway, I like your idea for a scenario.  That would be a definite challenge.

Here's yet another idea for a scenario.

Gilligan's island.  Seriously!

The skipper - a fisherman
Gilligan - a teamster
Mr. Howell - banker
Mrs. Howell - umm, not sure
Mary Ann - housewife
Ginger - showgirl
Professor - umm, the professor

Close the borders.  See if they can survive.
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