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« on: 01/31/07 at 11:02 PM »

Thanks again for the help in the hospitals, churches and pollution topic. I'm starting this one now so that it doesn't get cluttered.

I unfortunately had an uprising (my first) --I was like holy crap what's that!?! So I didn't get to try out my hospital and church thing, though I did early on make a service cluster near my palace that I kept well staffed, which kept my ratings at a decent level. I think in my next game I'll start the service cluster as soon as I can, build up, add the higher buildings, and then when I have those higher ratings fire the lower workers to see what that does.

The posts you suggested gave me a few good ideas. Like making nicer housing near my dock and making it affordable to the workers so that they are closer to it. And selecting "nobody gets out of here alive" when I get world bank problems. (I don't know why I didn't think of that.)

I think with that in effect I'll only have the one dock.

Your quintile suggestion is a little over my head at the moment. I'm just barely not completely sucking, and getting used to the this games complexity. So thanks, but at the moment paying by education is working and since it isn't broke...

I'll space my farms out so that they have four squares on each side. I haven't really built tree farms yet, but if they can do with the extra space, without ending up too big, why not? I haven't noticed problems with a lack of farm supply, but I haven't played as anything but a farmer yet.

I do have my teamster buildings near their targets. I didn't know that altitiude affected the radio stations, but since I play on flat islands, and the development is centered around my palace and industrial center, the only real place for me to put them is in the middle of the centralized industrial area.
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« Reply #1 on: 02/01/07 at 09:51 AM »

Newspapers, Radio & TV Stations all have circular zones of coverage.

In theory, people (Tropican citizens only) are affected/counted individually only when they they are in an specific building's zone. It can be speculated that people spend more time in or near their residence than they do in or near their building of employment - (time at health, religion & entertainment buildings is too hard to chart for this consideration).

Therefore, it seems desireable on "flat islands" to try to capture the maximum number of residences within the specific zones of influence.

If you are using the media for income, and you have grouped residences (or residences close by employment buildings) so that there are neighborhoods of distinct education levels - there is the place to center media.

Summary of Income Media:
    • Newspaper
      • Coupons 'n' More - all adults (13 years +)
    • Radio Station
      • Menudo's greatest hits - 4-25 year olds ; typically no education
      • Baja Bachata - Common People ; No + HS education (or pay quintiles?)
      • Ossified Opera - Educated Set ; College level
    • TV Station
      • Yanqui sitcoms - low return
      • Russian Soap Operas - medium return
      • 24 hour sumo wrestling - high return
      • >>different TV audiences seem not to be defined


    One would use similar considerations to locate political media centered on residential areas - especially shacks, low class bunkhouses and tenements.

    Summary of Political Media:
      • Newspaper
        • Voice of the Workers - increases membership in the communist faction
        • Financial Times - increases membership in the capitalist faction
        • Soldado de Fortuna - increases membership in the militarists faction
        • The Word of God - increases membership in the religious faction
      • Radio Station
        • El Presidente - increases individual "respect" index
        • Radio Free Tropico - increases individual "liberty" index
      • TV Station
        • Your Government, Your Friend - increases individual "respect" index
        • BBC - increases individual "liberty" index
        • Learning with Larry - Doubles the rate at which everyone (in range) gains experience


      Just some thoughts. "Learning with Larry" deserves special attention.
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      « Reply #2 on: 02/01/07 at 10:02 AM »

      A link to another observation:

      http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tropico/cafe/index.php?topic=9134.msg185791#msg185791

      You'll get a few messages saying how unhappy your Tropicans are and then the threat that they are close to rising up against you.
      Fairly soon after that, say 6 months, an uprising occurs.


      Also, keep an eye on protesters (flame over head).
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      « Reply #3 on: 02/01/07 at 10:46 AM »

      Just a note of warning.

      It is clear that when a Teamster goes to work and arrives at his Teamster Office building, he receives an assignment to pick-up a load at some production building which has material in its output queue.

      How that assignment is calculated is not totally clear.

      Although placement of the Teamster Office close to an high output production building tends to keep that production queue serviced, some Teamsters will get "remote" assignments. Such assignments may disrupt otherwise smooth operations.

      It may be that the Teamster assignment involves:
      • distance to queue
      • quantity in queue
      • age of first unit in queue
      • ?
      Observation seems to indicate that at some point, quantity and/or age will overcome distance.

      Good management of Teamsters requires fitting all their pick-up and drop-off points with a chain of Offices. In some situations on hilly islands, roads may be an important, early element.
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      « Reply #4 on: 02/01/07 at 01:17 PM »

      different TV audiences seem not to be defined

      I dont remember exactly what they are, but I am pretty sure they display in-game when you are selecting...

      It was like: Sitcoms cover everyone, Soap Operas are the females, and Sumo Wrestling was uneducated males, or something like that.....
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      « Reply #5 on: 02/02/07 at 08:52 AM »

      I don't remember exactly what they are, but I am pretty sure they display in-game when you are selecting -- ...

      Absolutely correct. Sorry. Here are corrected summaries:

      Summary of Income Media:
      • Newspaper
        • Coupons 'n' More - all adults (13 years +)
      • Radio Station
        • Menudo's greatest hits - 4 to 25 years old (Bubble Gum music)
        • Baja Bachata - Uneducated
        • Ossified Opera - College Educated
      • TV Station
        • Yanqui sitcoms - low return ; All Adults (Gilligan's Island Reruns)
        • Russian Soap Operas - medium return ; Adult Females ('When Boris Met Bianca' Reruns)
        • 24 hour sumo wrestling - high return ; Adult Uneducated Males
      Too bad they missed Cartoons, which even back in the day were important to youth and retired.

      Summary of Political Media:
      • Newspaper
        • Voice of the Workers - increases communist faction happiness and membership
        • Financial Times - increases capitalist faction happiness and membership
        • Soldado de Fortuna - increases militarist faction happiness and membership
        • The Word of God - increases religious faction happiness and membership
      • Radio Station
        • All Presidente, All Day - increases individual "respect" index
        • Radio Free Tropico - increases individual "liberty" index
      • TV Station
        • Your Government, Your Friend - increases individual "respect" index
        • BBC - increases individual "liberty" index
        • Learning with Larry - Doubles the rate at which everyone (in range) gains experience

      The changes in audiences in the "income" category are inportant.

      Please also note the changes in the Newspaper political effects. These are very important.

      Thanks to Brf.

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      « Reply #6 on: 02/03/07 at 09:23 PM »

      I'm gonna stop playing this game now. I've enjoyed it but I've kind of burned out on it for a while. Plus GC2: DA is coming out in like a week. Thanks again for all your help.
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      « Reply #7 on: 02/04/07 at 02:21 PM »

      Thanks for sparing us a bit of your time.
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