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« on: 03/21/04 at 11:37 AM »

Are the various media types that make money based on education or faction type?
Would "Yanqui sitcoms" appeal to those of the capitalist faction...or those who have a high school education.
Does the opera appeal to those in the the intellectualist faction, or those who are college educated?

I just want to know so I can best tune my media during my non-election money makeing periods.
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« Reply #1 on: 03/21/04 at 12:01 PM »

Thank you for your quick responce.
When you say "Pays the most" in the TV selections, does that mean targeted at the people who are paid the most? If it juts arbitrarily pays you more...why would you ever select any of the lesser paying options?
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« Reply #2 on: 03/21/04 at 10:09 PM »

Not so.. TV is aimed at fractions of the population, and it is possible to determine where you'll find more of those fractions. But to demonstrate that certain stations are not necessarily better than others, I started a test island and cheated to build a power plant and a TV station. Right now, we're airing Russian soap operas, and all 15 of my adult females are tuned it, to the tune of 34 bucks a month Wink

I only have 8 uneducated adult males, so 24 Hour Sumo Wrestling is only bringing in 30 bucks a month. It seems that in this example, Russian soap opera is proving to be more profitable, even though Sumo Wrestling will pay more for each viewer.
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« Reply #3 on: 03/21/04 at 10:18 PM »

I've just conducted a test on my big island. Using the same TV/Radio stations and the same workers, during the same month of January (I kept loading my game to 6 months earlier) I tested each of the options.

For each month:
(Television)
Yanquee sitcoms generated $1572, with 795 viewers
Sumo wrestling generated $1549, with 259 viewers
Soap operas generated $1577, with 397 viewers

(Radio)
Mneudo's hits generated $868, with 295 listeners
Baja Bachata generated $572, with 330 listeners
Ossified Opera generated $830, with 122 listeners

(Newspaper)
Coupons generated $1781, with 864 readers! :-D

Certainly the placement of the TV and radio stations has an impact, but I tried to place them toward the center of my island when I made them, so that they would reach as many people as possible. It'll probably make more sense for me to have radio stations at the center of each of my sectors, but that'll wait for later. Ossified Opera would probably make a lot more if I had it centered in the sector dedicated to power generation, since lots of people there are college educated.

These numbers are not to be taken at face value of course. Soap operas will not always come out ahead of sitcoms and wrestling. Particularly the ones related to education have a lot of potential to fluctuate.

So to answer the original question, if a TV/Radio station is tailored to uneducated it means people without high school or college education. Ossified Opera is tailored to college educated individuals, and it should tell you that when you go to select it.
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« Reply #4 on: 03/21/04 at 10:20 PM »

Another note... soap operas only attract female viewers, so it might make sense for me to have those near my power plants (which only employ females). On the other hand, sumo wrestling appeals to uneducated males, so if you have a big logging industry you might want to broadcast near it, since all loggers are men. That's the sort of rationale that should go into placement of these facilities.
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« Reply #5 on: 03/22/04 at 02:53 PM »

Altitude is most important for radio stations. In Junta Joe's Gold Volcano scenerio we discovered there was enough room for all the money-making radio stations on top of the volcano cone. The TV stations are also affected by altitude, but they have greater range to start with....

It is important to air channels that fit your demographics.... for instance, Opera will make a ton of money on a mature island that is full of bankers and engineers and such.
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« Reply #6 on: 03/23/04 at 12:09 AM »

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to seem confrontational or anything. If I rambled on and on it's not because I was outraged Wink It's just because once I start conducting experiments I just can't stop! That should be my catch phrase..  "Betcha can't analyze just one."

1} Yeah, I pulled a 'Groundhog day'.. my people experienced the same exact month, over and over again. I would hope that worker experience is stored in the saved game, otherwise it wasn't very scientific..

2} I would've listed them except that alt tabbing was driving me nuts already. That, and you can just hold your mouse over the titles in the game and it seems to tell you what they do. I guess that wasn't an option for you since you don't have the game, and I'm sorry because I didn't realize that Sad I don't have the game on this PC so I can't check right now either.


Not so.. TV is aimed at fractions of the population, ...

I most humbly and abjectly beg your pardon. See my caveat above.

Two questions:

1} In all your tests and data gathering, you did hold the experience level of the Journalists constant did you not? I consider that necessary in order to show whether one option really pays more because of a higher base rate.

2} Since you know what fraction/part of the audience each of the money making TV options are aimed at, why didn't/don't you list them?
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« Reply #7 on: 11/06/11 at 01:16 PM »

I'm sorry -- this is one of the threads where I deleted my posts in a fit of snit. Perhaps I can make a small fix although I can't call-back the original posters.

Are the various media types that make money based on education or faction type? ...

While I suppose it should be tested, the answer seems fairly clear from the "hover-over" on the selected option for each building.

First, each media building has a range (similar to the Electric Power Plant) which the "open-eye" will not show you until it is built. Both the Radio & TV Stations have a variable range which is increased by altitude -- so you have to understand the Tropican topography to get the most coverage from these expensive toys. The Newspaper has only one money making option - applicable to 'adult' citizens, probably without a range.

The Radio Station within its range (pay attention to that) has three money making options:
  • Bubble Gum music for the AGE range of 4 to 25 (Children and 'youth')
  • Bachata music for the UNEDUCATED
  • Opera music for the COLLEGE EDUCATED
So unless tests show otherwise, the money making options have nothing to do with political factions.

The TV Station within its range (pay attention to that) has three money making options:
  • SitCom (replay of Gilligan's Island) for all ADULTS
  • Soaps (Russian) for the ADULT FEMALES
  • Sumo Wrestling for the ADULT UNEDUCATED MALE
    • Frequently reported to be the most profitable option.
Again, unless tests show otherwise, the money making options have nothing to do with political factions.

Since profitability has to do with both station coverage and the character of the citizens within that 'range' -- the use of media for making money seems not to be simple.
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