Tropico Hurricane Names

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Hola fellow Tropicans,

El Presidente Ricardo has a high respect for hurricanes and other such tropical storms (being that he lives in the middle of Hurricane Alley, experienced Hurricane Andrew in 1992 firsthand, as well as having quite the stressful hurricane season last year in here in South Florida), so he decided to throw together this totally useless piece of information... all of the names of the hurricanes that can possibly hit Republica de Tropico <LOL>!

Man, I wish that Break Away would have added scripts to trigger the hurricanes, would have been quite interesting to experiment with.

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Abby
Able
Agnes
Alberto
Alex
Alice
Alicia
Allen
Allison
Alma
Amelia
Amy
Ana
Andrew
Anita
Anna
Arlene
* Arlene
Arthur
Audrey
Babe
Baker
Barbara
Barry
Becky
Belle
Bertha
Beryl
Bess
Beth
Betsy
Betty
Beulah
Bill
Blanche
Bob
Bonnie
Brenda
Bret
Camille
Candice
Candy
Carla
Carmen
Carol
Caroline
Carrie
Celia
Cesar
Chantal
Charley
Charlie
Chloe
Chris
Christine
Cindy
* Cindy
Clara
Claudette
Cleo
Connie
Cora
Daisy
Danielle
Danny
David
Dawn
Dean
Debbie
Debby
Debra
Delia
Dennis
Diana
Diane
Dog
Dolly
Donna
Dora
Doria
Doris
Dorothy
Dottie
Earl
Easy
Edith
Edna
Edouard
Elaine
Elena
Ella
Ellen
Eloise
Emily
Emmy
Erika
Erin
Ernesto
Esther
Ethel
Eve
Evelyn
Fabian
Faith
Faye
Felice
Felix
Fern
Fifi
Flora
Florence
Flossie
Flossy
Floyd
Fox
Fran
Francelia
Frances
* Frances
Frederic
Frieda
Gabrielle
Gail
George
Georges
Gerda
Gert
Gertrude
Gilbert
Gilda
Ginger
Ginny
Gladys
Gloria
Gordon
Grace
Gracie
Greta
Gustav
Hallie
Hannah
Harvey
Hattie
Hazel
Heidi
Helena
Helene
Henri
Hermine
Hilda
Holly
Hope
Hortense
How
Hugo
Humberto
Ilsa
Inez
Inga
Ione
Irene
* Irene
Iris
Irma
Isaac
Isabel
Isbell
Isidore
Item
Ivan
Janet
Janice
Jeanne
Jenny
Jerry
Jig
Joan
Jose
Josephine
Juan
Judith
Juliet
Kara
Karen
Karl
Kate
Katie
Katrina
Keith
Kendra
King
Klaus
Kristy
Kyle
Laura
Laurie
Lenny
Lili
Lisa
Lois
Love
Luis
Marco
Marilyn
Martha
Mitch

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Note that these are directly from the Tropico.exe game file, and that the "*" indicates duplicate names that are also contained in the file. Also note that the names stop at the letter "M"... strange indeed.

A few non-Tropican links of "interest" <VBG>:

http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/hurricanes/weeds_saffir_simpson_hurricane_intensity_chart.htm

http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/hurricanes

P.S. Break Away should have used the embeded storm sound effect contained in the first of the two links (http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/hurricanes/hurricane.wav ), verses the lame sounding one that they used for the hurricanes in the game <BG>!

[N-ZX]

Don't forget the destructive El Nino

[Railnut]

Also note that the names stop at the letter "M"... strange indeed.

Does the game only uses each letter once per year as in the real world? Or each letter once per game? And even at that rate M is the thirteenth letter. How much of your little island would be left after that?

Oh, and I don't think I've said welcome back since your return, so Welcome Back! Always a bunch of cool stuff that is way over my head when you start posting. And wifey never let me keep the Rebel Girl Screensaver.

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Don't forget the destructive El Nino

Ummmm... that one is *not* listed in the Tropico.exe file :wink:

P.S. (Just a general observation based on your previous posts) You do realize that there are no plans whatsoever of an upcoming official upgrade patch for this older gem of a game, and that the developers prolly don't even visit these message forums anymore :wink: ?

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Does the game only uses each letter once per year as in the real world? Or each letter once per game? And even at that rate M is the thirteenth letter. How much of your little island would be left after that?

Hmmm... that warrants further testing, as I have no idea. One thing I do know, it doesn't start with the letter "A", so I have a good hunch that the game prolly selects the hurricane name at random. Aaagggghhhhh! The possibility of **2** Andrews in a single lifetime!

Oh, and I don't think I've said welcome back since your return, so Welcome Back! Always a bunch of cool stuff that is way over my head when you start posting. And wifey never let me keep the Rebel Girl Screensaver.

Thanks for the warm welcome Oh man! A PC without the Rebel Girl Screensaver, is, well, a PC without the Rebel Girl Screensaver <G>  

[Coconut Kid]

It was reported to the testers for 1.51 that the storms each have a category - 1 through 5. To limit the destructiveness of the storms, the total of the category numbers of storms that happen must not equal more than 10.

Therefore, the greatest number of storms in a game may be only 10 - that is, 10 x category 1 storms. That is a highly unlikely happening.

The list of names seems absolutely huge to me. I suppose that is a way to try to ensure that random selection will not pick two names with the same initial for the rare case of two storms in one year.

 

BTW, I don't know that any minimum number is guaranteed.

 

[Railnut]

D'oh, I forgot about that limit.

[artemais]

Hmm...that's interesting:  the list of hurricane names is at 207 possible names.  Hurricane names are on a six year cycle, which would indicate only 156 possible names...perhaps the creators of Tropico just put in a bunch and didn't go past M for the obvious reason that hardly ever does a hurricane season go into the Ms....

[Sulaco]

Hurricanes stop at "M" because it is really rare to have a 14th Hurricane for the season (In real world)

"A" named Hurricanes are the first one of the year
"B" named Hurricanes are the second one of the year and so on.

Tropical Storms and Tropical Depressins are also named following the letter of the alphabet in the respective order.  Such as:

Hurricane Alice
Tropical Storm Benjamin
Hurricane Catherine
Hurricane David
Tropical Depression Elizabeth

 

[Coconut Kid]

It would be interesting to know where the PopTop developers got their names.

Besides the NOAA annual list of names being on a six year cycle for reuse, they also have a list of names which have been retired because of association with a particularly destructive storm. To wit:

Agnes            David                      Hazel
Alicia              Diana                      Hilda
Allen              Diane                      Hortense
Allison            Donna                    Hugo
Andrew          Dora                       Inez
Anita              Edna                       Ione
Audrey           Elena                      Iris
Betsy             Eloise                      Jane
Beulah           Fifi                           Joan
Bob                Flora                       Keith
Camille           Fran                        Klaus
Carla              Frederic                  Luis
Carmen          Floyd                      Lenny
Carol              Gilbert                    Marilyn
Celia               Gloria                     Michelle
Cesar             Gracie                     Mitch
Cleo               Georges                 Opal
Connie           Hattie                     Roxanne

Does anyone remember all or most of these storms? Who can remember the most? I suspect that Roxanne must have an unusual history. I suspect that Katrina will be added, eh?

Here are some links:
http://www.fema.gov/kids/r_hurrnames.htm
http://www.fema.gov/kids/hunames3.htm

For those who are into trivia.

 

[JakiusCeasar]

Hurricane Filbert....oohhh, scary

Hurricane Tyson, now there something to get people out of the wake


Hurry up, Tyson's coming!

[Capitaligous]

 The Chicken or the Hurricane? 

[Captain Carrrghter]

I think he means the boxer.

Mike Tyson was at one time the most feared heavyweight boxer on the planet. But that was a long time ago now. 

[Coconut Kid]

... But that was a long time ago now.

Well I did invite consideration of trivia.

But, oh woe and sadness, I forgot those who create instant trivia (or less) with their posts.

But then, we now have the image of the mighty boxer vs the omnipresent chicken, all spinning in the eye of a hurricane to determine the meaning of that hurricane. All this at the very end of the season, which is an indication of the bottom of both the menu and the list of important sports.

Just now we have the reluctant and confused Ophelia who seems not to be able to decide "to be or not to be" a hurricane - perhaps standing-in for Hamlet. What is the answer to be?

We do know that since Roxanne has been sticken from the lists, we shall never have Cyrano and Roxanne engage in a sad, mutual path in a single season.

Does anyone recall Katrina's role in The Legend of Sleepy Hollow?

 

[Capitaligous]

 Umm... I'm not to sure... how bout maybe? 

[Coconut Kid]

Umm... I'm not to sure... how bout maybe?

Maybe to what?

 

[JakiusCeasar]

You kinda assume that people would be more scared of a Ear-Eating Boxer than frozen chicken

[Capitaligous]

 MAYBE to 'Sleeping Hollow'! 

[CafeDave]

An interesting list CK.  Off the top of my head I think I can remember only a few that stand out:  Allen, Andrew, David, Mitch but cannot recite the year or location hit.  I also recall hearing or reading of Betsy and Camille (New Orleans), Flora, Floyd, Gilbert, Hazel (Toronto among others).  Will have to look them up to see if my memory is as good as I think.     The others are a blank to me.

[Coconut Kid]

MAYBE to 'Sleeping Hollow'! 

Disney made a cartoon feature The Legend of Sleepy Hollow based on the story written by Washington Irving.

The main characters are:

• Katrina van Tassel
• Brom Bones
• Ichabod Crane
• Gunpowder, the horse
• A pumpkin carved into a Jack 'O Lantern

The "Legend" involved a headless horseman.

 

[Capitaligous]

MAYBE to 'Sleeping Hollow'! 

Disney made a cartoon feature The Legend of Sleepy Hollow based on the story written by Washington Irving.

The main characters are:

• Katrina van Tassel
• Brom Bones
• Ichabod Crane
• Gunpowder, the horse
• A pumpkin carved into a Jack 'O Lantern

The "Legend" involved a headless horseman.

 

                    Excuse me,
The Legend of Sleeping Hollow.

             Here comes Katrina! Run for your life!

[instavinny]

there should be a hurricane vinny...THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!

[Georgie]

Named in honor of instavinny the cow.

[Coconut Kid]

... Note that these are directly from the Tropico.exe game file, and that the "*" indicates duplicate names that are also contained in the file. Also note that the names stop at the letter "M"... strange indeed. ...

I suspect that ending the list with "M" was related to limiting the length of the program file and a decision that what was included provided enough verisimilitude.

I wonder if the list could be "edited" even though it is in the program file. Is the "address" available?

If the list could be edited then you could have your own storm.

 

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

I wonder if the list could be "edited" even though it is in the program file. Is the "address" available? If the list could be edited then you could have your own storm.

The hurricane names start at hex offset 19AF4C (the "A" in "Able"), and end at hex offset 19B5C8 (the "h" in "Mitch").

You can edit them using any decent hex editor, as long as you don't "spill over" into the next name within the file. Note that the names are padded/seperated by hex zeros (00), some have more than others. Actually, you should be able to make a few of the names longer, as long as there is at least one hex zero (00) padding/seperating the name from the next one.

I suspect that ending the list with "M" was related to limiting the length of the program file and a decision that what was included provided enough verisimilitude.

Have a look at the data after the "h" in "Mitch", LOTS of hex zeros (00) in there. I have a hunch that new names could be added after "Mitch", but we would have no idea where the start offset of each new name should be (due to the number of padded zeros being different in between the existing names).


Hehe, similar topic, try this out for size <G>. Snag the sound file from my "¥Weeds¥-Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Intensity Chart" -> http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/hurricanes/weeds_saffir_simpson_hurricane_intensity_chart.htm ( http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/hurricanes/hurricane.wav ), and rename it to the new filename "Storm.wav". Copy this file to your "Tropico\Data" subdirectory, and enjoy a much nicer sounding hurricane sound -:)

BTW, the above also works for all of the ".wav" filenames that are listed in the Tropico.exe file (i.e. fountain.wav, almanac.wav, lumber.wav, furnitur.wav, etc...). Search for ".wav" (minus the quotes) using a hex editor to see 'em all. Simply copy a WAV format sound file to the appropriate filename to your "Tropico\Data" subdirectory to change some of the sound effects -:)


P.S. To expedite triggering a random hurricane, start a new map using the "Are you loco" random events setting (the hardest difficulty setting).

Save the game directly before the month ends during one of the hurricane season months (August to November). Tropico generates it's random events exactly when the month changes, so if you don't have a hurricane when the month changes, simply press "L ENTER ENTER" in rapid succession to quickly reload the saved game.

As an example, I saved a game a hair of a split-second before the month was going to change from October to November, and then simply L+ENTER+ENTER over and over until the hurricane triggered when the month changed to November.