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« Reply #25 on: 10/19/05 at 07:04 PM » |
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Seeing as Presidente has a nice bank in the Alps, will Presidente take a salary, or use the usual fees?
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« Reply #26 on: 10/19/05 at 07:14 PM » |
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Can't vote on that...
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« Reply #27 on: 10/20/05 at 07:11 PM » |
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lol
Usual fees, what is that?
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« Reply #28 on: 10/20/05 at 07:14 PM » |
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This is the Constitution I have written and am proposing for the Republic of Tropico. All people of Tropico are allowed to vote. Please vote! If you want something big changed then vote NEEDS CHANGES. Thank You!!!
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF TROPICO
Article I - GOVERNMENT AND LAW
Section I - Tropico is to be ruled as a republic. Section II - The head of the government is the President who has an elected Vice President to guide him. Both the President and the Vice President serve a term of five years. The President and the Vice President can serve as many terms as the people want them to. Section III - The laws of the country are proposed to the Minister of Justice who then proposes those laws to the President. If the President approves, then those laws will be voted on by Parliment. Parliment is made up of country Ministers, and County Representatives. Section IV - Law will be enforced by the Legal System and Civillian Police. The Supreme Judge of Tropico, who is also the Minister of Justice, decides if criminals go to prison or not. Section V - Voting is universal at age 18. Section VI - Tropico is to have an Army to protect the people, not terrorize. The Army will be financed by the Tropican economy which consists of farms, factories, and tourism. For national security, a conscription of young men aged 13 years of age and above is legal. Each soldier, enlisted or conscripted, will serve for five years. The enlisted term is five years with the option to re-enlist the year after. Section VII - If an Article of the Constitution needs to be revised or deleted then a constitutional amendment is neccesary. Ministers of the various governmental departments will convene, discuss, and will make a vote on the issue. Section VIII - The Government has the power to levy taxes to meet the financial needs of Tropico.
Article II - THE PEOPLE
Section I - All citizens of Tropico have freedom of speech. This means all people can freely talk about the government and not have to fear about getting killed. Freedom of Speech also includes the priviledge to have a free press not monitered by the government. Section II - All citizens of Tropico have freedom of religion. This means all people can openly practice their faith as long as they do not break the established Criminal Law of the country. Section III - All citizens of Tropico have the right to assemble peacefully if they have secured the permission from the proper authorities. This is for the overall saftey forthe citizens of Tropico. This means that all citizens are allowed to voice their opinion, or protest, against what they think is wrong and not be arrested. This protest must be peaceful and not violent. If violent events happen then the government is allowed to arrest those certain people. Section IV - All citizens of Tropico have the right to an education. Section V - All citizens of Tropico have a right to their own personal freedom. This means that slavery is abolished and NOT permitted on Tropico. Everyone should have their own liberties. Section VI - All citizens of Tropico have the right to bear arms. This means that all Tropican citizens can have a weapon(s) and use it for hunting or self defense purposes. Section VII - Greviance against the government is illegal. If they do, strikers are subject to dismissal from their jobs and possibly more severe consequences such as fines or imprisonment. Section VIII - Anyone accused of a crime is entitled to a hearing before the Minister of Justice. Prisoners shall be treated fairly and humanely. Section IX - All people from countries around the world are openly welcomed to the Republic of Tropico. Section X - All property on the Republic of Tropico is owned by the Federal Government and is rented to the citizens. The Government also establishes the wages and pays the citizens for their individual service to the country. Section XI - The people have the right to chose their own political persuasion. (Such as Capitalism, Communism, ect.) Section XII - Any person buying a gun must have liscene given by the Department of Defense, which will be overseen by the Armed Forces. All gun sales must be recorded. Section XIII - All Weapon Imports must have permission to unload thier cargo from a Buercrat. Any import of more than 50 units or contains assult weapons must get a permit from the Minister of Defense, or the President. This includes private sales and weaponart given as aid.
NOTE: Any person affiliated with the League of Tropico can offer suggestions or critism concerning this Constitutional Draft.
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« Reply #29 on: 10/22/05 at 09:03 PM » |
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There should be some Gun Control laws on Tropico, to keep Peace.
1)No Person on Tropico shall be allowed to own more than 3(?) guns. The execption here is stores selling guns, witch must get a permit to sell and a goverment inspector will set a limit of guns carried at any time.
2) Assults weapons, of any form cannot be sold on Tropico and can only be held by military men and this including,but is not limited to Assult Rifles, Pistols, Automatic machine gun,Grenades and pieces of Artilliery.
3) Any person buying a gun must have liscene given by the department of Gun Control, witch will be overseen by the arm forces. Any gun sale must be recored and reported.
4)All Weapon Imports must have permission to unload thier cargo from a Buercrat.any import of more than 50 units or contains assult weapons must get a permit from the Minister of Defense, Vice Presidente or Presidente. This inludes private sales and Weaponary given as aid.
5)failiure to abide by these laws can be punished by A regular Jail Term.
As for it being Illegal to strike, why that is absurd!!! Unions should be able to organize and strike, assuming it stays peaceful. However, strikers are still employees and may still be fired for a justifiable reason.
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« Reply #30 on: 10/23/05 at 12:32 AM » |
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I still don't see how many voted for what. It just says YES NO NEEDS CHANGES
that's all. Not how many voted for what.
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« Reply #31 on: 10/23/05 at 12:41 AM » |
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Ah, Caesar, you are too gun-control-minded. The three gun limit is too severe.
Let the guns alone. We can take care of it in another form of law. Not in the constitution. The Constitution is meant to be above the law, meaning that it is perminent. Such laws concerning how many guns one can own, or whether one should be allowed to conceal-carry it is for the local laws. By local I mean state, county, provence, etc.
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« Reply #32 on: 10/23/05 at 12:41 AM » |
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Yes, I will change it. Sorry! I have it set so that everyone would see the results after the vote so no one would get influenced or change their vote......
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« Reply #33 on: 10/23/05 at 12:43 AM » |
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Yes, I used a couple of your ideas Jakius.....
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« Reply #34 on: 10/23/05 at 07:16 PM » |
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@Seth, thanks, I still think that Assults weapons shouldn't be openly sold (they're not in the US  ) but there are a few controls that will help @Georgie Tropico is etremley small, not much goverment below Federal here
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« Reply #35 on: 10/25/05 at 07:12 PM » |
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I could not agree more with our esteemed Vice President. Some form of weapon control is clearly necessary and granting unlimited weapon rights to all citizens in the Constitution is not the best course of action, in my opinion.
Please consider the danger of people having assault weapons and heavy weapon systems. There are different kinds of people. There are criminals. It would certainly lead to losses in life and property if criminals are allowed to have such powerful guns. It would also put the lives of law enforcement officers and civilians in needless danger.
I am not disputing people's rights to keep light weapons for self-defense and hunting; however, a weapon is a broad term and what the current version of the Constitution seems to suggest is that everyone is allowed to own any weapon from assault rifles up to and including nuclear bombs.
In light of this I suggest:
1)That we withdraw the right to bear arms from convicted criminals and persons who have not taken a gun safety course and passed a government-standard test at the end of it.
2)That we limit the types of weapons citizens are allowed to own and carry to shotguns, single-shot rifles without optics and pistols, as well as restrict the legal ammunition to buckshot and solid ball bullets. To allow armor-piercing and hollow-point ammunition would be a disaster.
3)That we provide an exemption from the restrictions to government agencies, such as law enforcement and the military.
4)That we name the enforcement and regulation of guns in civilian hands a responsibility of the Ministry of Justice rather than the military, as VP suggested, since having the military police civilian guns would contradict Sections IV and VI of Article I of the Constitution.
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« Reply #36 on: 10/25/05 at 07:15 PM » |
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How about the sales of weapons and liscencing is under the dept. of justice, but imports and exports are under defense? I think it makes sense.
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« Reply #37 on: 10/25/05 at 07:18 PM » |
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That raises an interesting question, JC. What ministry is in charge of import/export and immigration in general?
I think it would be most logical that the same minstry, which oversees import and export in all items should oversee import and export of weapons. I am not certain what that ministry is, however.
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« Reply #38 on: 10/25/05 at 08:51 PM » |
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Oh sorry people, I meant to do this a while ago but a Department is to be added. Department of Tourism and Immigration. I really don't think we should have a department of imports and exports (or whatever) because that is something we cannot control...
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« Reply #39 on: 10/28/05 at 06:28 PM » |
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Why don't we just keep it the way it was! The code was accepted, after all. The US constitution was almost never altered.
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« Reply #40 on: 10/29/05 at 09:52 AM » |
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That's the U.S in 1787, this is Tropico 2005.
The consituiton sounds good for now, we can ammend it as needed.
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« Reply #41 on: 10/29/05 at 01:34 PM » |
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Yes, it is already posted so if something needs added or changed we will have to have an amendment.
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« Reply #42 on: 11/04/05 at 07:52 PM » |
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That's the U.S in 1787, this is Tropico 2004.
The consituiton sounds good for now, we can ammend it as needed.
Ahem - 2005.
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« Reply #43 on: 11/05/05 at 07:20 PM » |
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lol, well acyually Tropico starts in 1950
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« Reply #44 on: 11/07/05 at 11:24 PM » |
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New Poll! The new poll is just a fun poll for everyone to vote in. 
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« Reply #45 on: 11/09/05 at 07:43 PM » |
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That's fun alright...
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« Reply #46 on: 11/09/05 at 08:45 PM » |
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FOX only for the sitcoms...
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« Reply #47 on: 11/10/05 at 08:27 PM » |
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ABC because it's one of the few channels I get... 
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« Reply #48 on: 11/10/05 at 10:46 PM » |
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That's fun alright...
And thank you for the energizing enthusiasim....... lol Fun as in nonsense or not important poll Who voted MTV?
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« Reply #49 on: 11/10/05 at 10:47 PM » |
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ABC because it's one of the few channels I get...  LOL Do you have cable?
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