Linking Images and Files from Other Servers / Message Board Color Tags

[sethwbcl91]

test

[Brf]

You cant link to your C-Drive, silly.

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Me thinks that you should read this thread <BG> -> http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~tropico/cafe/index.php?topic=9960.0


(Edit: Thread URL changed to this thread, as it linked to an old thread that was merged into this one.)

[sethwbcl91]

test

[sethwbcl91]

ok???

so how do you get them to load from your desktop???

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Did you read the thread that I linked to???

Two words... you can't... read the linked thread.

[sethwbcl91]

Yes but I always have loaded them from my dektop...

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Yes but I always have loaded them from my dektop...

That is simply a side effect of the Microsoft Internet Explorer web browser (unfortunately :thumbsdown: ) being the basic core and an integral part of all versions of Windows, from Windows 98 and higher. You can create "local" HTML format web pages with content linked from your hard drive (or desktop), and this local content will be displayed in your web browser as if it were actually located/loaded from the Internet.

This is one of the biggest security problems with Windows 98 and higher (including XPeeeee)... the MSIE web browser is so integrated into the basic core of the Windows "operating system", that many times one does not know if they're simply browsing the Internet, or simply looking around their own hard drive(s) <LOL>.

As an experiment: In any version of Windows 98 or higher, start the Control Panel (i.e. "Start/Settings/Control Panel"), and then in the address bar type in "http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~tropico/cafe/index.php?" (minus the quotes), and then press ENTER... scary, isn't it <G>?

Anyhow, to recap, anything linked to _your_ hard drive/desktop can not be seen/loaded/displayed by others on the Internet (except for the obscure cases as detailed in the thread that I linked to).

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

P.S. (Please note that I'm not calling you "dumb" or trying to insult your intelligence with the following statement)

All of the above confusion is simply the fact of Mickey$oft and good 'ole Billy G. in general trying their very best to dumb-down the user as much as possible throughout the years with all newer versions of Windows... all of this confounded user-"friendly" crapola, done more harm than good to the computer industry in general <IMO>.

(re:) I remember quite sometime ago one of my clients who absoultely INSISTED that the AOL program/browser was "her desktop" and "her operating system" (when I asked what version of Windows that she had installed on her computer). After attempting to explain it for almost an hour, I finally threw my hands up in the air and gave up <LOL>!

P.P.S. Although most modern viruses are specifically target towards Microsoft products (simply for the fact of their strong monopoly on computer software in general), the above example(s) probably accounts for more than 75% of the reason that viruses propogate so easily and seamlessly using almost all newer incarnations of Windows and other Microsoft products.

Anyhow, rant_mode=OFF <LOL>!

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

P.P.P.S. Forgot something in my previous post:

(Re: "MS dumbing-down the user) The primary purpose of this is simply so that Mickey$oft can charge premium $$ to troubleshoot users' technical problems via their paid technical "support" department.

What a brainstorm!! Create an inferior bug-riddled product that dumbs-down the user so far that they wouldn't have a clue as to how to even begin to fix the most basic of technical problems, and then charge for technical support to _fix_ the user's problem... sheer brilliance <aarrgghh>! :thumbsdown:

And now for sure, rant_mode=OFF <LOL>!

[Brf]

The basic gist of it is this....

When you use a [ img ] tag you are not uploading the picture. It stays there where the img tag points.

You are supposed to put a web address in there, so your browser goes to a different website and sees the picture.

In your example, you put in a link to a picture on your C-Drive. When you look at the post, it looks on your C-Drive for the picture and finds it... When anyone else looks at that post, our browser looks on our C-Drive for the picture.... Unfortunately, we do not have that picture on our C-Drive, so we cannot see it.

[sethwbcl91]

oh, ok

[Capitaligous]

 Wow. Checked it out, that ftp stuff is now used for webpages, though. I used that for my RT3 website.

[Georgie]

(Edit by Rich Nagel: See my reply below)

[Georgie]

Why do you have a *camera* to help the world track your table and wastebasket? Can we hope to catch a sight of you in one of those pictures?



Also, the richnagel site has to be paid, doesn't it? You can't get that for free when you sign up for earthlink e-mail. Most of us kids don't have a website. The free forums like Caesar's does not allow the loading of an image from your beloved personal computer. They are quite stingy because they are worried about possible abuse and misuse of that.

[Brf]

Usually your ISP will give you free webspace.

You are already paying to access the internet, and the webspace is included.

My ISP, InsightBB, gives me 6 Email addresses, each with its own 10-meg webspace.

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

@Georgie, I removed the image link that you had in your above message post, this is an ideal example of what we were refering to in the other thread about hotlinking. Hotlinking files (especially images) basically steals bandwidth, and increases it tremendously (as the pic has to load for everone who views this thread).

Why do you have a *camera* to help the world track your table and wastebasket? Can we hope to catch a sight of you in one of those pictures?

Hehe, the last time that my ¥Weeds¥ Cam webcam was active was when I was in process of packing up for my move to Crystal River (hence the boxes and such). Other pics are mostly of stuff of mine, don't wanna go scaring the kiddies away with my ugly mug <LOL>. Anyhow, surf to http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/Weeds_Backwoods_Homestead/Weeds_Backwoods_Homestead.htm , there may be an obscure image or two of me there.

Also, the richnagel site has to be paid, doesn't it? You can't get that for free when you sign up for earthlink e-mail. Most of us kids don't have a website. The free forums like Caesar's does not allow the loading of an image from your beloved personal computer. They are quite stingy because they are worried about possible abuse and misuse of that.

The CMOO site isn't part of my Earthlink account, it's provided by a friend of mine who is buddies with another guy who owns the webspace provider (CMOO). My Earthlink accounts are set up for http://home.earthlink.net/~richnagel and http://home.earthlink.net/~rfnagel , although there isn't much there (and the rfnagel one redirects to another page). But... I could upload and store up to 10 megs of files/images in either of the above two (or create up to 8 email addresses with Earthlink and use each of their provided web space).

Anyways, basically what Brf posted... your ISP usually gives you some form of free webspace to do with what you wish, and again, you can NOT link an image directly to your hard drive... it simply does not work.

Another option is to purchase web space and/or a domain name from Yahoo. Examples: http://www.richnagel.net and http://www.melbarry.com . Mine is simply a registered domain name with redirection (as I didn't purchase any web space from Yahoo), but my sister's (Melinda) site is a registered domain name as well as a ton of web space and bandwidth.

Either way, you have to pay for web space, in one form or another... either the free web space that is provided by your already-paid for ISP, or purchasing web space (with the option of domain registration) through a third-party company (such as Yahoo, or another example CMOO).

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

P.S. Almost forgot, the pic link that I edited in your above message post, see all of the pics (including that one) on my ZipZap Stuff web page -:) ->http://www.cmoo.com/~snor/weeds/zapstuff.htm (also linked at http://www.richnagel.net )

[Coconut Kid]

@ Weeds,

There is a lot of good, continuingly useful information being collected here. It isn't just a "test" or "tests."

This "test" board has to be dumped/cleared from time-to-time.

I suggest that at least a summary of the image linking information be posted on the information & help board.

Also the material & links about your various sites might fit on the Other Tropico Sites board 

It would really be a shame if folks started linking to a "test" board to answer questions.

 

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

I didn't even realize that the Test board was spooled/dumped on a regular basis. I'll confirm with Dave about that, and if so, attempt to split/merge pertinant message posts into a new thread in another board here at the Cafe -:)

BTW, can you (or anyone else) think of any other message threads here in the Test board that should also have the afore mentioned done to them?

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

Folks, I merged two threads that were over on the Test Board, "test" and "[img] test", as they had a lot of useful info in them dealing with linking to images and files on other Internet servers. I also moved the merged thread here so that it doesn't get deleted or spooled from the Test Board, as well as deleting several message within the two threads to clean up the final merged thread a bit.

[Brf]

Actually, I have my own freeware color utility written by myself. Unfortunately, it is written in VBScript, rather than Javascript, so it will not run in Netscape or Mozilla.

It can be found on my stuff page: http://home.insightbb.com/~b.fermanich/page2.htm

I wrote a new version of Colorizer in javascript, so it works in Firefox and stuff. It has more buttons for easy color picking too:

http://home.insightbb.com/~b.fermanich/page2a.htm

[Georgie]

How confusing!

[Rich ¥Weeds¥ Nagel]

On the contrary:

1) One's (paid) ISP usually provides some form of free web space with their Internet package.

2) You can upload images or files to this free web space.

3) You can hotlink images or files from this free web space.

4) You can NOT link to images or files that are stored on your hard drive and expect other folks on the Internet to actually be able to see them... simply put, that does NOT work (for logical reasons).

(Edit) 5) This message provides a bit more non-spam info than simply replying with an ambiguous "How confusing!" type of reply, that doesn't ask any questions (but simply bumps up one's post count :wink: ).

What's so confusing?

[Georgie]

Aye, you're right. It was partly as a test to see if the post number increases, now that this thread is out of the test board.

To put it simply, I am a greenhorn in the whole study of operating computers. But here's my little test. I am linking a jpeg from my public picture album:

And here's from my private album:

Can't believe the latter loaded up. The url is of such unholy length that I understand why folks avoid linking images. After  a while, one starts to see numbers that are not there, and overlook letters that are there.