Grandia

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Originally posted by sggg
Finnish alone has something like 14 cases which make it so that word order in sentences does not even matter.

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14!? No wonder the Finns are notorious for never speaking to one another.

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Japanese is actually not that hard. It's just a big adjustment learning to understand new characters.

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My only previous exposure to learning languages was with teutonic and romantic tongues, but I've found Japanese pretty tough. The manner of thinking and presenting ideas is very different from western languages, and trying to get through a sentence without using pronouns can be a headache.

As for Japanese vs. Chinese, learning to read either sucks equally.

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Originally posted by Chakan

I've been studying Japanese seriously for about two weeks now, spending only about an hour or two a day. It hasn't been that hard for me, actually.

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:lol: Wait until you to something tougher than saying your name and asking what time it is. You've got some fun headed your way, believe me.

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Originally posted by StriderKyo
:lol: Wait until you to something tougher than saying your name and asking what time it is. You've got some fun headed your way, believe me.

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You're making assumptions about my ability to learn something, man. That's not very polite. :P

I'm also not bothering with focusing on learning how to speak or write in Japanese. I'm focusing primarily on reading and comprehending sentences written in Japanese.

At least for now.

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Originally posted by Chakan

You're making assumptions about my ability to learn something, man. That's not very polite. :P

I'm also not bothering with focusing on learning how to speak or write in Japanese. I'm focusing primarily on reading and comprehending sentences written in Japanese.

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I wasn't making any comments about you personally at all, just on the fact that you've only been at it for two weeks. It's a language that takes years to get down, even for the MENSA members among us. Especially if you're not actually living the language.

It isn't super-string physics or anything, but it's not a walk in the park either. There's a ton of memorization involved and some awkward concepts to wrap your head around down the line.

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Originally posted by sggg

Come on now, I think we all know plenty of good and great games from all genres that didn't make it to NA. Quality is not always the deciding factor. Many times games don't make it over simply because of their style or some other strange reason. Sometimes the fact that NA gamers simply don't buy certain games in significant enough #s to justify porting the game. That does not mean the game is any less good. I'd personally love to have English language versions of Mr Driller, the new Klonoa games, Fire Emblem, Grandia for Saturn (!), about 30 other Saturn games, Cardfighter's Clash 2, Segagaga, Napple Tale, Magical Vacation, the Let's Make a Pro Soccer/Baseball Series, and countless other games (including many I've never heard of or can't remember because they're inaccesable to me)... way more than I can list. There are plenty of import game enthusiasts here who have way more import games than I do (I only have around 10 so far) and I think it's pretty silly to say that they only like crappy games that are not good enough for NA. There are plenty of quality games released only in Japanese.

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Of course it's not only the poor games that don't make it here. That's not entirely what I meant. How many western games are their that are shit? Tons. I was just trying to use an example related to the topic..

Oh, I definitely agree with that, Kyo. Like most languages, it takes time. There's only so much you can take in and full understand in a single day.