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I hear that terrorists have killed some other people too.Quote:
Originally posted by Master of 7s
Thousands of Americans, Christians and Jews are already long dead at the hands of fanatical, Muslim and other religious extremists around the world since the early 1980's.
Isn't it guilty until proven innocent for people whom aren't american, and are caught, and tried outside of america, for crimes against america..Quote:
Originally posted by Dolemite What happened until innocent until proven guilty?
Sounds good to me. :)
If someone messes with us, we don't owe them any favors. The terrorists are murderers and don't deserve to be covered by the Geneva Convention. It's all about self-defense... better for terrorists to die than for thousands of innocents to die later.
If a terrorist suspect tries to flee, shoot to kill. They are too great of a flight risk... who knows what they would be planning next if they escaped. I don't care what Amnesty International thinks in such a situation. The odds are good that a suspect who would try to escape is guilty as charged.
How do you prove somebody is a terrorist without a trial that contains some evidence of them being one? Just like the CIA missiled those guys cooped up in a car a couple of months back in the Middle East. Sending a missile at a few guys you "think" are terrorists in a car, not a tank or armored carrier, is pretty dumb in my mind. The same goes here.
These people who they think are terrorists I should hope have solid evidence to prove such things. Sure they are all probably anti-american, but being hateful doesn't make somebody a potential killer. I guess our own civilian murder suspects could be done the same way too. After all, just about everything is being considered a terrorist act these days. May as well include all murderers in there.
Terrorists aren't covered by the Geneva Convention, as far as I understand, anyways - the Geneva Convention only covers soldiers who follow certain rules that discern them from non-combatant civilians. You have to wear a uniform, act like a soldier, so on, not hide yourself amongst civilians, and that gives you the protection of the Geneva Conventions.Quote:
Originally posted by gameoverDude
If someone messes with us, we don't owe them any favors. The terrorists are murderers and don't deserve to be covered by the Geneva Convention. It's all about self-defense... better for terrorists to die than for thousands of innocents to die later.
If a terrorist suspect tries to flee, shoot to kill. They are too great of a flight risk... who knows what they would be planning next if they escaped. I don't care what Amnesty International thinks in such a situation. The odds are good that a suspect who would try to escape is guilty as charged.
If you don't do that, then the rival side is excused of a lot of things - because you basically brought them upon yourself. If you hide amongst non-combatants, and those combatants get killed, it's YOUR responsibility, you endangered them, so on.
Let me tell you guys a little story.
Its about a guy called Salman hamdani.
He dissapeared the day the twin towers collapsed.
FBI started harrasing his family and claimed they had proof that he was involved in the terrorist attacks.
The FBI tought he was part of a NYc cell that had prepared the attack and that after the attack was succesfull that he had fled the country.
The harrasment of the family and neighbours continued until six months AFTER the WTC attacks when Salmanīs body was found mangled in the WTC rubble.
Salman was an American Muslim of Pakistani descent and a police cadet.
When disaster hit the towers he rushed to the scene and helped people escape certain death, in the end it cost him his own life.
People who were rescued by him after regaining theyre senses contacted the authorities to notify them of the fact that that guy on the terrorists list had helped them escape, yet the authorities didnt change a thing until finnaly his body was recovered.
Now Salman is on the 9/11 heroes list.
Now come back and tell me that indiscriminatly killing people becouse they are SUSPECTS is a good thing.
I'd rather mistakenly kill one non-citizen than to have a single American die.Quote:
Originally posted by Almaci
Now come back and tell me that indiscriminatly killing people becouse they are SUSPECTS is a good thing.
All though I agree, the logic doesn't fit in that story, seeing as how he was an American citizen..
No, I know. I was simply replying to that limited paragraph.Quote:
Originally posted by Rich
All though I agree, the logic doesn't fit in that story, seeing as how he was an American citizen..