not to mention that 3rd party games don't sell too well on GC - then again, that's because they're usually all the PS2 ports from Acclaim, Midway, or something of the sort.
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not to mention that 3rd party games don't sell too well on GC - then again, that's because they're usually all the PS2 ports from Acclaim, Midway, or something of the sort.
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Originally posted by haohmaru
Count me in on the "I'm not surprised" group. ;P
Shooters do horribly in the U.S.
No, bad shooters sell horribly. StarFox sold pretty well on both SNES and N64. It takes a game like Ikaruga, to make the US audience appreciate that market more, than they have in the last 6 or 7 years.
The shooters that we've gotten in the US, were'nt exactly the top of the heap. Sure the Dreamcast recieved quite a few, but they really did'nt do anything revolutionary for the genra. .Did I really wan't Gradius III and IV on the PS2? Is Silpheed TLP really a good representative on next gen shooters? No they are not!
Before we all assume that Quarterman is right shouldn't we look for real confirmation? After all isn't Quarterman the same guy that said Nintendo had behind the scenes paid off Capcom for full Street Fighter 2 exclusivity, and that was the reason the original SF2: Champion's Edition for Genesis was canned? That broke my heart, devastated me. Then I saw that Quarterman is full of shit when Street Fighter 2 Special Champions Edition not only came out but was the superior 16 bit SF2 game. Since then I've learned to take everything he says with a handfull of salt. BTW this guy also reported in 1995 that Shigeru Miyamoto was leaving Nintendo to take over Sony's internal games development. Obviously a right on the money call, seeing how much fun I'm having playing Mario Sunshine on my PS2 and all.....
Thats why they are called rumors genius...
GameStop's computers had Suikoden III for the XBOX listed as coming out for March ;)Quote:
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The EB computers have it listed for a May release.
In Sqoon's defense...rumors are better than no news whatsoever, and he did credit the source, so it's not like he's making up news. At the very least,...discussion can be generated from this, less negativity though.
Whoa, are you saying Star Fox and Ikaruga should be categorized similarly? I'd say Mars Matrix & Giga Wing are more similar to Ikaruga than Star Fox is, and neither of those did dick in the U.S.Quote:
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No, bad shooters sell horribly. StarFox sold pretty well on both SNES and N64. It takes a game like Ikaruga, to make the US audience appreciate that market more, than they have in the last 6 or 7 years.
The shooters that we've gotten in the US, were'nt exactly the top of the heap. Sure the Dreamcast recieved quite a few, but they really did'nt do anything revolutionary for the genra. .Did I really wan't Gradius III and IV on the PS2? Is Silpheed TLP really a good representative on next gen shooters? No they are not!
I think that Ikaruga would tank and a "big" company like Infogrames has nothing to gain from releasing it. It's more of an Agetec-like title to release, where they don't expect big numbers and don't spend big money to convert it.
The Quartermann section in EGM usually generates discussion, regardless of whether stories in there are true or not. I WAS going to hold out for the U.S GC version, but I figured I'd rather have a "bird in the hand", so I scored the DC version.:lol:
So... anyone talked to Atlus lately? They enjoy bringing us quality (and not-so-quality), quirky titles that other companies won't. Including ones from developers like Sony who refuse to publish their own games in the US. :rolleyes:
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Whoa, are you saying Star Fox and Ikaruga should be categorized similarly? I'd say Mars Matrix & Giga Wing are more similar to Ikaruga than Star Fox is, and neither of those did dick in the U.S.
I think that Ikaruga would tank and a "big" company like Infogrames has nothing to gain from releasing it. It's more of an Agetec-like title to release, where they don't expect big numbers and don't spend big money to convert it.
Star Fox is a shooter and so is Panzer Dragoon Orta. The shooter genra has faultered, because of the flood of top down shooters available back in the 16-bit era. People see this style of shooter and say, did'nt I play this kind of game back in the late 80's early 90's?
If the shooter market is to gain any repectability, it's going to take graphically revolutionary games to sway more gamers into this style of gaming. Hardcore shooter fans can appreciate games like Mars Matrix, Giga Wing and Ikaruga, but the part of the market that is needed to make it grow, needs to see something they've not seen before, for this market to earn respect.
Sure Infogames would be taking a big risk in releasing Ikaruga over here, but the game is already developed, so the only cost out of their pocket is porting and licensing the game. If they could sell 50,000 copies of the game, I'm sure they could make a decent profit from the game, but a decent profit is'nt what most game publishers are looking for.