Breath of Fire V - Official

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Originally posted by Ammadeau
www.tokyopia.com has had impressions of this game up for quite some time. Sounds very different, but probably not something I like. I don't really enjoy games designed to frustrate me.

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Right... and the thing is, when you read into it, the frustration isn't coming from the game being too hard. The frustration comes from what sounds like the most tedious RPG ever.

I don't know why people are all praising it, thinking it will bring about one thing RPGs are lacking: replay-value. But when you consider how awful this game sounds in execution being forced to start over all the time, it makes me wonder if there's any play-value.

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Originally posted by Tsubaki
Right... and the thing is, when you read into it, the frustration isn't coming from the game being too hard. The frustration comes from what sounds like the most tedious RPG ever.

I don't know why people are all praising it, thinking it will bring about one thing RPGs are lacking: replay-value. But when you consider how awful this game sounds in execution being forced to start over all the time, it makes me wonder if there's any play-value.

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I don't know, I think it sounds even more interesting than before. The only problems I see are that if you are someone who has time restraints (or a lack of patience), this may not be the game for you.

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Originally posted by Tsubaki
Right... and the thing is, when you read into it, the frustration isn't coming from the game being too hard. The frustration comes from what sounds like the most tedious RPG ever.

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Are we reading the same article? The only article I read over there had almost nothing but good things to say about it, with the only complaints being it moved kinda slow and wasn't graphically incredible.

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Additional dragon transformations unlockable via multiple play thrus perhaps?

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Considering how little it'll probably be used and how powerful it is already, would there really be any point to multiple forms?

I think this game - like most RPGs - won't be for everyone. RPGs rarely seem to please every RPG player and there never seems to be consensus on which ones are the best (just check most RPG threads here at TNL for evidence).

That's ok though... and personally I am really excited about BoF V. I am very intrigued about the unique gameplay. I think it suits my tastes as a gamer - but I can also see how other people won't dig it.

Ah well, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. :)

I know I wouldn't like this game because I would never use the dragon transformation for fear of premature game over and since the game is designed around the idea of me using it some of the time, I'd probably have a hard and frustrating time with it. Let me work to earn the ultimate weapon. Just don't give it to me and say 'but if you use it ten times, it'll destroy the world.' That just personally annoys me. It would also give me the feeling that building up my party is a waste of time.

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Originally posted by Ammadeau
I know I wouldn't like this game because I would never use the dragon transformation for fear of premature game over and since the game is designed around the idea of me using it some of the time, I'd probably have a hard and frustrating time with it. Let me work to earn the ultimate weapon. Just don't give it to me and say 'but if you use it ten times, it'll destroy the world.' That just personally annoys me. It would also give me the feeling that building up my party is a waste of time.

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But building up your party isn't a waste of time because you can restart the game at any point with all your previous stats intact.

Not what I meant. I mean since you have a sure kill attack that can waste the boss at any time, what's the use of spending hours on a guy who will eventually be able to take down the same boss in a dozen or so attacks? I know it doesn't quite work out that way in the game, but it seems to be pretty pointless.

No use, rummy. Once Amm has decided he doesn't like something, he's pretty unshakeable.

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Originally posted by Ammadeau
I know I wouldn't like this game because I would never use the dragon transformation for fear of premature game over and since the game is designed around the idea of me using it some of the time, I'd probably have a hard and frustrating time with it. Let me work to earn the ultimate weapon. Just don't give it to me and say 'but if you use it ten times, it'll destroy the world.' That just personally annoys me. It would also give me the feeling that building up my party is a waste of time.

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I think you are sort of missing the point. You are not supposed to win the game the first time though. You are supposed to play, lose, learn, keep your stats, play again, lose again, learn more, keep your stats, etc, etc, then eventually win... then you can even continue playing and unlock new areas that are only accessable after you've "won".

I think that I tend to play games the way you are describing. I tend to be very cautious and meticulous. If the game was a one-shot then I would feel the same way about not using the dragon transformation either. But....... it's not.

You play and lose for a reason. You up your stats (you don't "waste your time") and presumable learn how to play better. When you should use the dragon form, and whatnot. It seems to me like a game that teaches you and rewards you for learning. It seems hard and challenging, unlike many other modern RPGs. That's what I find appealing about it.

Like I said before though.. this is definitely going to be a love it/hate it type of game. I hope it's for me. I am very intrigud. :)

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Originally posted by Ammadeau
Not what I meant. I mean since you have a sure kill attack that can waste the boss at any time, what's the use of spending hours on a guy who will eventually be able to take down the same boss in a dozen or so attacks? I know it doesn't quite work out that way in the game, but it seems to be pretty pointless.

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The use is that you can't simply breeze through using the dragon. Yes, you can plow through a couple bosses once, but then you'll have to restart. If you do it again, you'll restart again. You still have to level build to get anywhere, but you now have a "fail-safe" device that must be thought about to be used.

Don't think of it as an ultimate weapon, think of it as a last ditch resort tactic to only be used in dire circumstances so as to not lose the progress of your party. It's there to help your party get stronger, not take the place of.