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1) Economics. :\ Don't forget that Capcom is still hurting right now. I can see this turning around if the innovation seen in the C5 continues, but who knows...
2) Heh. Of course it won't! The GC userbase can't support those numbers. I imagine it will do numbers a bit better than FF Tactics.
3) Will RE Online matter much at all on the PS2? Probably not.

Sony will always sell larger numbers this generation (at least) because Nintendo's still second place -- it's not even close competition since Sony is so far ahead. That doesn't mean Nintendo can't make a profit and keep its third parties happy.

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Hell, I'm all for exclusive content for the GC simply because I'm tired of blurry and jagged PS2 games.

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:lol: Aren't we all?

Random note: Didn't Capcom announce an Auto Modelista GC? Was this at E3?

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they have incredible 3rd party support. it might not be much, but they got all the franchises that count.

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Their 3rd party support is pretty good, but the XB and PS2 have more 3rd party support, don't they?

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Online games well on their way

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Is it as good as Microsofts?

And what are the current sales figures for this generation? Isn't the XB outselling the GCN? I don't keep track of the news these days.=\

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Originally posted by xS
Their 3rd party support is pretty good, but the XB and PS2 have more 3rd party support, don't they?

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you must have not read that "it might not be much, but they got all the franchises that count." part. even though you quoted me on it.

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Originally posted by xS
Is it as good as Microsofts?

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There hasn't been a single console game, save PSO, that makes me care about online gaming. True Fantasy Online might change that.

Nintendo may be going in a new direction, but it's too little, too late. Look at the Sega-console thread and read how times someone mentions Sega 'backstabbing' its fans. Same thing here, people think Nintendo's too 'kiddy' for too long, and no matter what they do that changes that image, the kiddy-image will stay with the fans.

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Originally posted by Lucas Barton
-they have incredible 3rd party support. it might not be much, but they got all the franchises that count.

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Excellent. I'll have to go pick up...

Art of Fighting
Castlevania
Contra
Darius
Darkstalkers
Daytona
Devil May Cry
Dino Crisis
Fatal Fury
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fight
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts
Golden Axe
Gradius
Grandia
House of the Dead
King of Fighters
Klonoa
Lunar
Metal Slug
Onimusha
Phantasy Star
R-Type
Salamander
Samurai Shodown
Sega Rally
Sengoku
Shining
Shinobi
Silent Hill
Splatterhouse
Street Fighter
Streets of Rage
Suikoden
ThunderForce
Vandal Hearts
Virtua Cop
Virtua Fighter

... for the GameCube this weekend. :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Yoshi
Castlevania
Contra
Devil May Cry
Dino Crisis
Gradius
House of the Dead
Klonoa
Onimusha
Phantasy Star
Sega Rally
Shinobi
Silent Hill
Suikoden
Virtua Cop
Virtua Fighter

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Those are the only games in that list that are available for any of the new (domestic) systems right now. I know Metal Slug and KoF are coming, but they don't count - you're talking about games you could just run out and get today, right?

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Originally posted by Hero
There hasn't been a single console game, save PSO, that makes me care about online gaming. True Fantasy Online might change that.

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Agree. Console multiplayer games have always been about the social aspect rather than multiplayer for the sake of multiplayer. Mario Kart and Goldeneye and Halo and Frequency are fun to play with others when the others are right there with you. Internet gaming gives you a larger pool of players to choose from but lacks the interaction of physical contact. Xbox Live solves the communication problem but only serves as stand in for a true multiplayer experience. Interent play on consoles still has a long way to go and I think Nintendo is doing the wise thing by letting the market work itself out before jumping in head first.

IMHO, of course.

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Same thing here, people think Nintendo's too 'kiddy' for too long, and no matter what they do that changes that image, the kiddy-image will stay with the fans.

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Intelligent people don't see anything 'kiddy' about Nintendo. It's the children that wish they were adults or adults that still act like children that consider Nintendo 'kiddy'. And as far as I'm concerned both those groups can GFT.

And since when did DMC become a franchise that counts? :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Yoshi
Excellent. I'll have to go pick up...

Castlevania - 3 gba games
Contra - 1 gba game
Darius - 1 gba game
Final Fantasy Tactics - 1 gba game
Final Fight - 1 gba game
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts - 1 gba game
Golden Axe - 1 gba game
Gradius - 1 gba game
King of Fighters - 1 gba game
Klonoa - 1 gba game
Lunar - 1 gba game
Metal Slug - 1 gba game (in dev)
Phantasy Star - 3 gba games on one cart/1 gc game
R-Type - 1 gba game
Shining Soul I/II - 2 gba games
Shinobi - 1 gba game
Street Fighter - 1 gba game/1 gc game
Suikoden - 1 gba game (Suikoden: Card Stories)
Virtua Fighter - Quest rumored for gc

... and a Gameboy Player for the GameCube this weekend. :)

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Having series show up on the GBA hardly counts as the GC having them. Of course the GBA is going to have every series. It has no competition.

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Originally posted by Yoshi
Castlevania
Contra
Darius
Darkstalkers
Daytona
Devil May Cry
Dino Crisis
Fatal Fury
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fight
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts
Golden Axe
Gradius
Grandia
House of the Dead
King of Fighters
Klonoa
Lunar
Metal Slug
Onimusha
Phantasy Star
R-Type
Salamander
Samurai Shodown
Sega Rally
Sengoku
Shining
Shinobi
Silent Hill
Splatterhouse
Street Fighter
Streets of Rage
Suikoden
ThunderForce
Vandal Hearts
Virtua Cop
Virtua Fighter

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You rattled off a great deal of franchises there that do not, in fact, matter. With the exception of the ones I bolded, they are either not available on any home console this generation as yet, or do not in actuality have any sales counter stroke, regardless of how much you may personally like them. Good job, you managed to point out a whopping four relevant franchises the Cube is missing. (And that's because I'm giving Castlevania the benefit of the doubt; its sales potential with current mainstream console players is currently unknown. We may find out in November that you actually had but three.)