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Oh, I know - believe me.. Just that, a rep got air-time on MSNBC to discuss the case when I made the post (makes it seem like it's a respectable org). Anyway, good they're supporting NAMBLA which I hope damages them as much as possible.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
Further legitimacy would require a foundation of legitimacy on which to build. The ACLU is in its very title is a farce.
I would've preferred the ACLU didn't take the NAMBLA case for publicity reasons (and I would've preferred they didn't take the case in this thread because it's fucking stupid). That said, the lawsuit they were defending NAMBLA in was frivolous. Fry the two sick fucks who did it, by all means, but you can't blame NAMBLA 'cause one of its members killed somebody.Quote:
Originally posted by diffusionx
I think the ACLU lost almost all of its legitimacy when they decided to support NAMBLA. That said, I think something like the ACLU is absolutely necessary, and if they didnt support NAMBLA, I would have joined the organization without hesitation.
Oh, and for Yoshi: you do realize that the ACLU has defended Neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan members in the past, right? Doubt there are too many handicapped Peurto Rican lesbians in the KKK.
The ACLU is in existence to fight for the rights of all americans whenever due process was or may be denied. So it shouldn't surprise you that they often take up causes that most "sane" individuals would consider rediculous. They often need to forget about the person and the facts and only focus on the wrong that was done or is about to be done. I'm no fan of murderers and pedophiles but when my rights are threatened in the future because some case was won by denying someone a key right creating case law that could be used against me than I get worried. As I've said a thousand times, extremists are a neccesary part of society and it's always some poor persons job to be that extremist. Whether they like or agree with a person or the issue is inconsequential, their job is to fight for said person or issue.
What if you get pulled over? Taking it off to show the cops will violate her beliefs as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Dolemite
Eh, just take it off once you get in the door.
And she lost BTW.
Brown people are just as stupid as white people.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
Further legitimacy would require a foundation of legitimacy on which to build. The ACLU is in its very title is a farce. The American Civil Liberties Union should treat every single person the exact same way. It is what they preach, but it is not what they do. If you're not a handicapable, Puerto Rican lesbian, good luck getting support for them. They cater to the lowest common denominator of society, because no self respecting minority would ever associate himself with that circus.
Most intelligent thing posted thus far.Quote:
Originally posted by MVS
Brown people are just as stupid as white people.
Yep. And Bill Clinton was a pot head in the past too. Are you willing to say that he still is because of what he once did?Quote:
Originally posted by Saint of Killers
Oh, and for Yoshi: you do realize that the ACLU has defended Neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan members in the past, right? Doubt there are too many handicapped Peurto Rican lesbians in the KKK.
I've heavily pro-immigration (I'm not one of the people that'll say all 'foreigners' should get the fuck out of my country) but this is ridiculous.
Bottom line. If you want to move to England, France, USA, whatever - you should have to attend compulsory lessons in the mother tongue of that country, and you should fit in with THEIR laws. If I wanted to live in Saudi Arabia, the payoff for getting to live where I wanted would be to follow the laws in effect in Saudi Arabia.
No. Arguments. If you want to move to another country, you MOVE TO THAT COUNTRY. You don't take all your expectations, customs, lives and whatever over there unless they fit in with what's in effect there. If you're not going to learn the language everyone else speaks, you have no right to be there.
Uh, the ACLU defended the KKK in a court case 2 years ago. It's not like they stopped doing it in the 60s.Quote:
Originally posted by Yoshi
Yep. And Bill Clinton was a pot head in the past too. Are you willing to say that he still is because of what he once did?