Democracy, your days are numbered.

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Originally Posted by rezo

The only school I went to that had rampant "conditioning" was the christian private school I was at for a few months(I was at a catholic private school for years before, mind you, so I mistakenly thought this one would be on par). . .well, here's my short comment on that school I made on this site over a year ago:

"I was in a christian school for those few months( I got out quickly).

they taught us to hate Darwin,Marx,Lenin,Freud, and Uncle Tom's Cabin.


I really wish I kept that textbook.
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It wasn't teaching, there were chapters full of put downs. Making fun of Harriet Beecher Stowe's family and such.



What is this moderate socialization you're alright with?

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I would have loved to have gone to that school, if only to see people actually take that stuff seriously.

The history book(where all of these topics were brought up) taught creationism. Apparently Noah's five(?) sons seperated to different continents with their wives and started all of the individual races.

The history teacher seemed to be behind most of the topics. He would rant occasionally about how stupid people that believed evolution were. He was also the best teacher there. =\

the PE coach "taught" two of my other classes and would often ditch to play soccer.

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Originally Posted by sggg

Hitler didn't exactly "take power" legally. :wtf:

Where you guys are confused is that the Nazis did win a national election (without a majority of the votes, mind you). Hitler truly gained his power by seizing the Chancellory. The old guard thought they could use Hitler and his party but Hitler got the last laugh my manipulating them and seizing and consolidating all the power in the country. Once Hitler became Chancellor the word "legal" was meaningless, he had all the power.

That's it in a nutshell, it should not be hard to find more information about this if anyone is curious.

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What? He won a national election, but couldn't take power because they had a system of proportional representation. The President appointed him Chancellor, they merged with another party, and the Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag as they effectively voted themselves out of existence.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that whatsoever. The act which gave Hitler the power of a dictator was voted for by a majority in the German parliament, after the President had used HIS legal power to declare Hitler leader.

He never "seized" the chancellory, he was given it after a succession of Chancellors had completely failed to improve Germany's economy.

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Originally Posted by red_war_machine

What? He won a national election, but couldn't take power because they had a system of proportional representation. The President appointed him Chancellor, they merged with another party, and the Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag as they effectively voted themselves out of existence.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that whatsoever. The act which gave Hitler the power of a dictator was voted for by a majority in the German parliament, after the President had used HIS legal power to declare Hitler leader.

He never "seized" the chancellory, he was given it after a succession of Chancellors had completely failed to improve Germany's economy.

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There is still nothing legal about his rise to power. Roughing up and killing political opponents was not acceptable in the Weimar Constitution. Hitler did this before the Enabling act was passed, before he even became chancellor. It looks legal, but look at the primary documents from the era. Dude, it's not LEGAL.

Ask any scholar. Read any scholarly journal.

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Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

There is still nothing legal about his rise to power. Roughing up and killing political opponents was not acceptable in the Weimar Constitution. Hitler did this before the Enabling act was passed, before he even became chancellor. It looks legal, but look at the primary documents from the era. Dude, it's not LEGAL.

Ask any scholar. Read any scholarly journal.

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Hang on, regardless of that, his appointment as chancellor, and his taking of the reins of power in Germany were both legal. Yeah, okay, there was other stuff. But that doesn't make his appointment as dictator of Germany any less legally solid.

Yeah, but killing people to get there isn't legal. The killing was the necessary condition for "legal" power. So, in order for him to take "legal" control over the government, he has to do something patently illegal (not to mention follow it up with more illegal ish).

As I said, talk to any prof of History, read any scholarly journal; it wasn't legal.

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Another stupid fucking thread...