They can just say that Iran stole all of Iraqs WMDs. That's the perfect excuse.
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They can just say that Iran stole all of Iraqs WMDs. That's the perfect excuse.
JMET, Abobo is Iranian. I'm half-Iranian. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by spacecowboy
Good to hear.. :rolleyes:
What does that have to do with Iran being a supposed military super power... :lol:
As to Iran's military, it's a whole lot stronger than Iraq's. As far as countries not favorable to the U.S., Iran is probably tops in the area. Iran is ready to go as long as they get some help. And by help I don't mean "shock and awe".Quote:
Originally Posted by JMET
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The only thing I have dissagreed on is about Iran being some 800 pound gorrila.
They may be top dog in the mid east but dont forget this is the mid east we are talking about...
Dont confuse me dissagreeing about that 1 fact with not having any knowledge of or wanting the country smashed.
Iran has very little to do with International terorism, they never had.
Back when the Taliban had a New York office Iran was the only country actively fighting against them.
That being said Iran is in an extremely difficult position.
In the east you have Pakistan and India wich both have nukes capable of reaching Iran, in the west you have Turkey(US Nukes) and Israel who both poses nukes capable of striking Iran, Iran is surounded by hostile to semi hostile to neutral countries wich have capabilities Iran does not poses.
Stoping Iran can only be achieved by ending the proliferation of nuclear arms in the entire region, something no one seems intrested in doing so.
And the US putting the current Irani government in place?
Purlease, get real, the talks were over anti terorism measures, something Iran has helped with ever since 9/11.
Bush screwed much up by his retarded axis of evil speech.
In other news, Iran continues its refusal to hand over suspects they apprehended in their own country and suspects who tried to cross the Iran/Afghan borders.
The US continues to claim that that is a clear sign they support Al Queda, wich is a horribly retarded thing to do as they ARE apprehended and other countries like the UK continue to do the same becouse the suspects wouldnt get a fair trial in the US.
The biggest US suporter in this is saying the exact same thing Iran is yet Iran gets blasted for it despite having an anti Taliban and anti Al Queda plan in operation long before 9/11 and long before the US.
Pretty sick.
No wonder the female Irani lawyer who was praised recently by the US and who won the Nobel peace price recently was blasting US policy.
why is "Do some research such as talk to my close friend who is from Iran and whos whole direct family came over here with him.." valid reasoning yet "Abobo is Iranian. I'm half-Iranian" is not? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by JMET
I have a friend who came over from Iran two or three years ago, he says the government is pretty oppressive there and after Sept 11th his family moved because the people there were obviously in support of the WTC bombings. Religious extremists and nuclear weapons don't mix and the UN is pushing the issue. While I think the UN is mostly in for more global influence even they can see a country like Iran having weapons like this being a problem.
The funniest thing about this whole situation is that the French gave Iran the nuclear technology (yeah they gave it to them for energy purposes but hell, anyone has to have an idea that nuclear weapons come from technology like that). Didn't the world learn when Clinton gave North Korea nuclear technology? Now we have two semi-aggresive nations with weapons like these.
As for Iran being the 800 lb gorilla and Iraq being the wimp...Iraq has been seen as the more powerful nation in the Middle East for some time. They recieved more Soviet era equipment then Iran, and unless Iran has developed their own tanks, have a huge steel industry, large amounts of money in their economy, developed their own planes, etc. then I don't think they will be able to offer much resistance to a UN coalition.
On a side note the only countries that would be able to fight a decent fight against a UN or US coalition would probably be China (World War III right here), N. Korea (would be able to fight for a little while), maybe Russia, and that's about it.
Here we go again Gohron.
The French have nothing to do with this.
Irans technology comes from Urenco, Urenco is a Dutch/British/German consortium.
NOT and I repeat NOT French.
Can you EVER get ANYTHING right?
U.N. probes Iran-Pakistan nuclear links
Tehran admits centrifuge program
By Douglas Frantz
Los Angeles Times
ISTANBUL, Turkey - The United Nations' nuclear agency is investigating potential links between the atomic programs of Iran and Pakistan after discovering that the secret Iranian uranium-enrichment program used technology identical to Pakistani plans, according to diplomats.
Tehran acknowledged to the International Atomic Energy Agency that its centrifuge enrichment program was based on designs by a European company, Urenco. Diplomats said the designs were the same Urenco-based technology used by Pakistan to develop its nuclear bomb in the 1990s.
Centrifuges are used to process uranium into fuel for reactors or fissile material for bombs. The purification process is complex, and perfecting the machines, which spin at twice the speed of sound, can take years.
The most recent atomic energy agency report on Iran's nuclear program said Tehran started research in 1985 and got the centrifuge designs "from a foreign intermediary in 1987." Iran has told the agency that they came from a middleman whose identity remains a mystery.
The United States has accused Iran of using a civilian program to conceal efforts to develop an atomic bomb. Atomic energy agency inspections in recent months have uncovered numerous instances in which Iran concealed activities that could have played a role in developing an atomic bomb.
Iran has maintained that its nuclear program is strictly to generate electricity. Earlier this month, Tehran agreed to provide the agency with a full disclosure of its program's history and accept tougher inspections of its nuclear facilities.
On Wednesday, the agency's governing board in Vienna, Austria, condemned Iran for its long cover-up of sensitive nuclear research and warned that any future violation of its non-proliferation obligations could result in sanctions. The board stopped short of referring Iran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions.
Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the atomic energy agency, said a new report on Iran would be ready for the agency's board in mid-February. He said the agency's inspectors had "a lot of work to do before we can conclude that Iran's program is exclusively for peaceful purposes."
Diplomats said discovering the origins of the Iranian uranium-enrichment process has been one of the key areas under investigation by the agency as it has attempted to reconstruct 18 years of activities.
Urenco is a British, Dutch and German consortium and a world leader in centrifuge design and operation. The company denied supplying centrifuge technology or blueprints to Iran.
Pakistan has repeatedly denied providing nuclear assistance to Iran. Iran also has denied cooperating with Pakistan.
Abdul Qadeer Khan, the primary developer of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, worked at the Urenco enrichment plant in the Dutch city of Almelo in the 1970s. After returning to Pakistan, he was accused of stealing plans from the facility.
Two former Iranian diplomats told the Los Angeles Times last summer that Khan had made several trips to Iran, beginning in 1987, to help with Iran's nuclear program.
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraff said a reported visit by Khan to Iran was connected with attempts to purchase short-range missiles, not nuclear-technology sales.