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Yea, it's a pretty slick site. And altough it's not one of my faves, ANY originality in web design goes a long way imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
OMG 8pt PIXIL FONTS, ARROWS, AND ONE PIXEL BORDERS! THIS IS AMAZING!?
(A neat little site: http://www.uncontrol.com)
The problem with most of these sites are that they aren't real "web sites", they are just elaborate flash animations. I mean sure they look as nice as hell, but they have very little to do with a "real" website. I'm my opinion these sites are really leaving the whole website realm and entering a totally different one. Then again I'm not really well versed in this area, so my opinions probably mean very little :D
As for my picks, I don't really keep in mind my favorite websites, though I've always been a fan of Kenshin's work.
piku's right - that pixelranger site is a great example. It looks nice, but its fucking hell to navigate through and all the flashy buttons and lights and shit take forever to load and make the site anything but functional. Its total style over substance.
ive hated flash websites for years but unfortunately they only seem to be getting more popular as people equate good web design with lots of flash animation and bullshit.
If you ask me the best website design out there is ESPN.com. Its functional as anything, has a ton of information mere clicks away and has everything in a logical, consistent place throughout the website. Its incredibly easy to find anything you are looking for on that site.
I'm just not impressed by people who make websites completely out of flash. Sure, it looks neat, but anybody can do that. I have a lot of respect for people who still work with standard old HTML - no Flash, no Java - and push it to its extremes and come up with impressive creations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Plus, right away his site says that a Pentium is required, so I guess I'm not welcome. (Nor are any AMD owers.)
i'm not talking about their main site. check out their featured work and past projects. there's a lot of good stuff there. there's some silly flash nonsense, but they even do a decent job with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
Uh. Sorry but not everyone can make Flash sites. They involve HEAVY programming with mathematical equations.
Sure from just looking at them, they may seem simple but they are not.
HTML, strict coding is used aswell. A hybrid site is a good example of combining both worlds.
PR and 2A are 2 of the highest paid web designers. Sure their styles are great, but they know what they are doing.
Also, I don't get the hard to navigate argument.... I mean.. where is that coming from? It has a standard dummy navigation (that's what the under the header, horizontal style of nav is called).
Isn't it pretty straight foward? Click and go?
Odd.
Whoops... not everyone can make advanced flash sites such as 2A, or PR... anyone can make a crappy flash site. That's not that hard but it's still harder than HTML (which is changing apparently in 3 years - w3c.org)
i'm not talking about their main site. check out their featured work and past projects. there's a lot of good stuff there. there's some silly flash nonsense, but they even do a decent job with that.
I check them out. They are good but I've seen better.
How is Flash nonsense? It is way more interactive than HTML and you don't design in boxes, you design freely - how you invision it.
Most flash sites aren't even high loading times. PR is quite quick loading on high speed. I just don't get it.
i agree whole-heartedly. im so sick of all-flash layouts. most dont look that good, and they all have those stupid loading pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
just look at http://www.pimp-productions.com ! that webmaster is a fucking genious.
i personally like flash. i even fool around with it from time to time, so i know good work when i see it. ..it's just that a lot of people tend to overuse it by creating entirely unnecessary graphical garbage, just to show how leet they are with the program. plus, it automatically excludes many older machines from even viewing the page, which is potentially a huge problem depending on your clientelle.
Flash doesn't work with Opera for some strange reason, so I'm excluded from the flash websites unless I want to open IE. I can agree that HTML is fine.
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Anybody can make a total shit flash site yes. But the same can be said for static HTML sites too (check out angelfire or geocities).
Personally I love me some Flash as it's a bunch of fun to work with. Thing is 90% of all websites are about delivering content to to your users. Until Flash has a 100% browser saturation rate, I personally wouldn't go all Flash with any of my or my clients sites (unless personally requested).
Flash can be great for certain user groupe demograpics, but it's not for everyone.
I do like utilizing Flash in sites that can still effortlessly be viewed without it. Take a look at one of my portfolio websites to see what I mean. (portfolio site is in SORE need of an update):
http://www.moreevolved.com/portfolio/