Edit: Sci-Fi Channel suing NASA about UFO cover up

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Originally Posted by PBMax

He said it all, I was listening to the show when it happened.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid this has been taken entirely out of context. Lear was not saying all of this was true. His whole point of coming on the show that night was to express his new feelings that if indeed there was a huge consipraicy, the government was doing the right thing by covering it up.

This statement was simply a scripted "what if" scenario. Lear acted like he was a governement agent, who was going to tell Art the truth, and let him decide whether they should tell the public about it or not. He covered all the bases and laid it on thick to prove his point. He wasn't saying that this is what he believes. He may believe some, or all, of it but that's not the context in which it was stated.

Interestingly enough at the end he asked Art to decide , given what he now knows, whether this should be made public and they both agreed it should not. It was purely a hypothetical situation and should not be taken as his word.

That all said, he did voice his opinion on many issues that night; and some of it was quite compelling. This kind of thing is not at all uncommon to hear on Coast to Coast.

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Yes I assumed something like that at the time, but the show was already two hours in when I started listening at the time, so I may have assumed to much of it was real.

The above what you are reading is a summary a listener did so the show would have text to go with the archive, and PB's right I believe some of it is out of context. But all of it? Nah, I know for a fact John Lear has indeed stated a good deal of it before, and perhaps his trick to not getting shut off the air was mixing a certain amount of fiction with his supposed truth. Also remember that Lear has said a lot of the same things in a few other interviews and writings where he was not ad-libbing. Ultimately, you might be able to put something very credible together by looking up his old stuff, hearing this, and then eliminating what isn't consistent.

Thank you for clearing that up though... :)


* I do however have a very interesting clip from the show, a two minute phone call that happened on a past episode that Art regards as one of, if not the strangest phone call he's ever taken on the subject, or in his career.

Its pretty freaky, and not for the easily pussed.

IM me if you want it, youandwhosearmy8

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Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

* I do however have a very interesting clip from the show, a two minute phone call that happened on a past episode that Art regards as one of, if not the strangest phone call he's ever taken on the subject, or in his career.

Its pretty freaky, and not for the easily pussed.

IM me if you want it, youandwhosearmy8

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I'll be hosting the clip in my webspace for a day or two later on today, assuming FTP will cooperate. And... yeah. Very freaky indeed. I'm not sure what to think, really, but yeah... a whole lot to think about. This whole subject is interesting to think about.

Damn... I need to listen to that again. Seriously bizarre.

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Originally Posted by PBMax

Unfortunately, I'm afraid this has been taken entirely out of context. Lear was not saying all of this was true. His whole point of coming on the show that night was to express his new feelings that if indeed there was a huge consipraicy, the government was doing the right thing by covering it up.

This statement was simply a scripted "what if" scenario. Lear acted like he was a governement agent, who was going to tell Art the truth, and let him decide whether they should tell the public about it or not. He covered all the bases and laid it on thick to prove his point. He wasn't saying that this is what he believes. He may believe some, or all, of it but that's not the context in which it was stated.

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Yeah I figured that but if you look at the link I posted alot of what he said on Art Bell he has been saying since the 80s, so he believes alot of it.

Exactly and if there is anyone else who wants to host the clip I have, feel free too.

YAWA, could you give me a hint as to what the tape is of? My PC is out of commission at home & I can't DL it here at work.

Thanks

JM

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Originally Posted by JM

YAWA, could you give me a hint as to what the tape is of? My PC is out of commission at home & I can't DL it here at work.

Thanks

JM

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The tape is a random call Art recieved on the Area 51 line. Its a line that is for people who worked at or do work at the facility in some fashion, and he's very uptight about who gets on it, cause if its not legit, it makes him look bad.

This is all supposedly, so...

this guy calls up who sounds very, very, upset and states that he used to work at area 51, he was discharged a week ago for "medical reasons", and that he's been running across the country all week. He says the call must be brief as they will triangulate the call soon. The whole time he is getting more and more upset.

Then he says that aliens as the public is meant to percieve them is wrong, they are, extra dimensional beings that the precursor to NASA made contact with in the forties or fifties. He then says that they are not what they say they are and have infiltrated every aspect of the military and know about upcoming disasters, and that there are safe places on the planet the government could be moving the population too right now. But they aren't, because they want the major population wiped out so that we are easier to control.

At this point he is beyond hysterical, completely freaking out and crying, and tries to keep talking, but the station starts cutting out...

That in itself is an interesting little thing, but what happens next is the fucked up thing.

The whole radio station goes dead.

They are off the air I believe for fifteen minutes (the tape is edited so they come back on after fifteen seconds) and Art is on with another caller, and asks him if he got that. The guy says he did, but not all of it, and that the guy was really freaking out. Art says they are on under a backup internal generator, and that the station has never gone dead like that before, and says, "I think whatever that guy had to say, somebody didn't want us to hear it."

The whole thing is pretty creepy.

Yeah it was pretty weird and all but it seemed staged to me. Mainly because Art Bell going on about "This has NEVER happened here before how amazing" and the guy just HAD to say at the beginning of the call "They will get in on this position soon". Uh how? If he's running around the country all week how would they know where he was calling from, and that he was on Art Bell anyways?

Well doug, thats why I said supposedly. But lets face it, Art is a weird, weird guy, so I don't attribute any reaction he has to be like, giving away.

If it was staged its still cool, but even Art has his limits with respectablity and that is not something that would be cool with crediblity.

also remember two things.

The whole station went out in nevada, not just his show (I doubt his higer ups would let him get away with that) and that the guy really didn't sound like he was in a good state of mind to really care if they did or didn't find him.

Just two points to argue, the obvoius one being the station gave out.

Yeah I know, it's just odd to me. I can't imagine government agents saying "Ok this guy was discharged and has left his home on the run so let's listen to Art Bell in case he calls in there since that's what anyone else would do in the same position" Plus the dude sounded like an addict going through withdrawal I don't think many people would believe the dude anyway.also cutting the whole station down would make what he was saying be more believable when they could just let him ramble on like a maniac

alright i just saw your added comments. Yeah those are good points they wouldn't want it all going down for 15 minutes just for Art Bells show. I didn't even know the station was located in Nevada either

If you had a show doug, where 80% of what you talked about were, government coverups, aliens, lies the governement tells you, and crackpot theories on, that drew the listener base that his show does, and pretty much gives up as much as possible on the air that they can, where art stress and asks people to constantly record the shows he does if you want (for free) so that hard copies are everywhere "just in case",

I think said government would listen to the show despite discharging some loony.