Warcraft or Starcraft?

I'm going for Warcraft because...I really don't know. I havn't played SC in awhile but there were too many "NO RUsHING 15 MIN!!!" games than I can count. While it may be well balanced, few could get around not having to say no rushing for x minutes to have a game last more than 5 minutes. Of course it's pretty much the same in WC, but at this point I'm waiting for the next patch (for the love of god finish it soon!) to make WC fun again. I love the variety and look that WC brings and it's my current best RTS game. I'm a Blizzard whore, so it doesn't matter much to me. I fully expect my life to end when WoW is released and I may shit myself when Starcraft 2 is announced. Just like 500,000 other people.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I didn't like the Broodwar expansion (fucked with my Zerg way too much and Protoss is just...Protoss) while I'm a fan of Frozen Throne.

Warcraft is a better game. It just hasn't benefitted from all the game balancing tweaks and patches yet. In my book, the game is a way more FUN experience.

The new micromanagement tools (like being able to queue upgrades, idle peon locators, the mini map beacon, etc) alone make the experience far more enjoyable.

The unit AI is far better in WCIII. For instance, I can group 3 Dragonhawk Riders and ask them to cast Cloud. I can point-click, point-click, point-click and get 3 clouds to take out an entire row of towers. In SC, I get 3 Defilers and point-click a Dark Swarm and I get a Dark Swarm 3 deep in one location.

The low unit count gives it more strategy and less of a prodcution war. It also makes the games less susceptible to rushing and crazy base unit massing. Maybe because I'm not that good at either game, but in SC, it seems like whoever makes the most Goons/Hydras/Tanks or whatever will be the winner.

The engine is more versatile and robust. For the times that you want to play something other than the normal game, there's a plethora of custom games available like Sheep Tag :D

Starcraft; although I don't like either very much because I can't seem to get a game gonig for more than 10 minutes. Rushing kills both games for me.

Starcraft. I still play quite often. Username "Criticom" on East and West. :-)

Starcraft, definitely, for pretty much the exact reasons omfg stated. Though War3 is obviously an extremely well made game, I much prefer the large scale management and strategy over the insane in-battle micromanaging. To me, it takes a lot of the actual strategy out of it. Losing a battle that you had prepared better for, outnumber your enemy in not only sheer numbers, but units directly countering the enemy's choice of units, only because the enemy micromanages to the point where he makes every single unit who starts taking damage, run circles around the battle over and over, sucks huge fucking dick. And that's how 95% of the lvl 10+ War3 players play. To be honest, even though the game isn't as well made, I've had much, much more fun with C&C Generals: Zero Hour than War3 online. :/

Starcraft. I don't think I need to explain its positives to anyone.

I like Warcraft III, especially the single player game...

But not nearly as much as playing multiplayer in Starcraft.

I might eventually like WCIII more, but I've never taken anywhere the amount of time it takes to get good on bnet as I have with SC.

This isn't even close. Before Broodwar, Starcraft was a fantastic game. After Broodwar, it became the best RTS game ever. Warcraft 3 on the other had, was completely not what I wanted from a Blizzard RTS. Frozen throne does little to solve the whole Unit cap/Unit Tax. The game looks fantastic, and I halfway expect the next real Warcraft game (not including WoW, i mean RTS) to be just awesome. But thats only halfway expect. It used to be I always expected it.

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Originally Posted by Error

Frozen throne does little to solve the whole Unit cap/Unit Tax.

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Solve it? The unit cap and tax is there to keep battles small and microintensive. I love it. They only rose the limit to 100 food max because of the extra peons you need to get more wood since wood costs increased on everything.

There really isn't an RTS like WC3, and that's why I'm glad Blizzard took the chance to try it.

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Originally Posted by Andy

Starcraft, definitely, for pretty much the exact reasons omfg stated. Though War3 is obviously an extremely well made game, I much prefer the large scale management and strategy over the insane in-battle micromanaging. To me, it takes a lot of the actual strategy out of it. Losing a battle that you had prepared better for, outnumber your enemy in not only sheer numbers, but units directly countering the enemy's choice of units, only because the enemy micromanages to the point where he makes every single unit who starts taking damage, run circles around the battle over and over, sucks huge fucking dick. And that's how 95% of the lvl 10+ War3 players play.

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Really? I think that's a great feature of WarCraft. Just having units isn't enough, you actually have to play them. I almost never used the "micro" skills in SC, but I use almost all of them in a WC3 game. The FT expansion was really pretty insane and brought a ton to the game, more the Brood War did (except for in story, where BW kills it).

As far as running units? Just group attack his whole force. He can't make them all run.