Big Bang Theory of the Universe's Begining Thrown Into Question

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Originally Posted by Tracer

It's not mine however. It was said by Albert Einstien.

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Which is exactly why it's the best argument I've seen here.
You proved you had a brain stem and stated an opinion of an esteemed individual.

Bonus Points for you.

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Originally Posted by Tracer

It's not mine however. It was said by Albert Einstien.

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Probably the smartest man to ever live on this planet.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

Probably the smartest man to ever live on this planet.

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Yeah. Because he wasn't related to any American politicians in any way.

See kids? Way back when people had the sense to IMPORT THINGS... even scientists!

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Originally Posted by gamevet

Probably the smartest man to ever live on this planet.

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And he didn't even do good in school.

Take that, public school system!

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Originally Posted by OmniGear

And he didn't even do good in school.

Take that, public school system!

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Take that, No Child Left Behind Bill!

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Originally Posted by rezo

What do you mean? Its not presumptuous. You may value your authority moreso than any of the other arbitrary things that could be put in its place, but its actual value is equal to anything that is there. Realistically, you value it more even though anything else could be used to function equally in its place. Logically, anything else could be used to function equally in its place so it has no priority over anything. If something actually has more value as an argument over something that is based on faith then that thing with more value isn't based on faith or it is valued in a manner not relating to the value I am talking about regarding faith. The value you see in the authority, for instance, is seperate from the value I am speaking of regarding faith-based beliefs.

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Ah! I see now. You were talking apples, I was talking oranges. ;)

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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

No one is more close minded than a devout fundamentalist.

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I suppose on this point we agree, but it still doesn't take away from your close mindedness.

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I probably know at least as much about the disingenuous goons who run around trying to "prove" creationism as you do.

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Oi. You see, this argument wasn't even about "proving" creationism as much as it was about justifying it as a valid belief when stacked against science and it's discoveries.

Not to mention the fact that when I said "lack of information" I was speaking about your general knowledge of Christianity and the Bible, and not so narrow a topic as you limited it to.

WE GET IT! You don't like Christians. Fine. I never asked you to like them, and I never will. But since you never contribute anything to these types of threads outside of "I hate Christians, it's a bunch of garbage," I was thinking maybe that we could just assume what you'll post from now on, and that way I won't have to read it, and you won't have to write it.

And PM me. Maybe a friendly conversation about Christianity out of the public eye will help to lessen the enmity between us.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

You see, this argument wasn't even about "proving" creationism as much as it was about justifying it as a valid belief when stacked against science and it's discoveries.

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You do realize that in trying to justify it as a valid belief was trying, in essence, to prove it, right?

No it isn't. I'm not trying to convince anyone, with facts or otherwise, that creation is the way to go, or that it is otherwise "true."

You're confusing your meanings.

If God came down and showed himself, all the scientists in the world would run up to him and ask how she made the world and how it works, with genuine interest and love.

If a scientific proof which disputed the beliefs of the Bible was found by a scientist, most Christians would block their ears and blind themselves with their faith.

I believe the second scenario has happened many a time. Who are the close minded ones then?