Anti-Gay Marriage Constitutional Amendments?

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Originally Posted by Wilykat

I'm not sure what Schwarzenegger means by "civil unrest" over the events in San Francisco. I happened to relocate here right as Gavin Newsom was sworn in as mayor and took this initiative, and the only real resistance and protest I've seen has come from outside groups who came into San Francisco to demonstrate against it.

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Gavin Newsome can suck my straight heterosexual testicles. The man is in effect the Bush administration's biggest supporter right now by pushing what would have been a regional issue into the national spotlight. No matter how you feel on the issue itself, it's pretty obvious that politically it plays right into Bush's hands.

When Bush rides to victory as the savior of heterosexual fuckers everywhere, make sure to tip your cap to Gavin Newsome.

Dick Cheney's daughter is gay, but she is against gay marriages. She's been getting flamed for it now for quite some time.

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Originally Posted by Mike

How so? I mean, I understand how society has become a little looser and now people experiment with stuff, but wouldn't you think that a truly homosexual person would have been born that way? I thought there was evidence proving some sort of gene or developmental process? Besides, casual gays aren't the ones wanting to be married. The real, hardcore homosexuals are the ones going for that.

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There might be some evidence proving one way or the other, but there is still so much we don't understand about human development, brain functions, genetics, and all the other undefined variables that make us work, to be certain in any conclusion. It might be genetic, or it might be choice, or a lack of effort to make it work with the opposite sex. Who knows? It might all come down to evolutionism, because if a species becomes totally homosexual, they can't reproduce? If a small fraction of that population is gay, it just might add to the notion that nothing is absolute, even the laws evolution. I think issues like these just add to the wonder of life, and its magnificent unpredictability and chaos.

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Originally Posted by Mike

How so? I mean, I understand how society has become a little looser and now people experiment with stuff, but wouldn't you think that a truly homosexual person would have been born that way? I thought there was evidence proving some sort of gene or developmental process? Besides, casual gays aren't the ones wanting to be married. The real, hardcore homosexuals are the ones going for that.

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You're most probably right about the hardcore ones and marriage, but I haven't heard anything of some genetic coding and homosexuality, yet. The way it looks now, it must be in the mind... it is a preference, after all, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Gohron

humans still wern't made/evolved to be like this (in my opinion).

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Men have been fucking boys all throughout history. Didn't stop us from being born.

People act like gay marriage is going to destroy America. Personally, I'm just working this whole straight-guy angle until the day comes when I can have rip-roaring gay ass sex and get a tax break for it.

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Originally Posted by NoktUp

There might be some evidence proving one way or the other, but there is still so much we don't understand about human development, brain functions, genetics, and all the other undefined variables that make us work, to be certain in any conclusion. It might be genetic, or it might be choice, or a lack of effort to make it work with the opposite sex. Who knows? It might all come down to evolutionism, because if a species becomes totally homosexual, they can't reproduce? If a small fraction of that population is gay, it just might add to the notion that nothing is absolute, even the laws evolution. I think issues like these just add to the wonder of life, and its magnificent unpredictability and chaos.

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All I know is, once I'm President, I'm banning boy bands and gangsta rap that sounds like Chingy.

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Originally Posted by Mike

I thought you were responding to my statement regarding basis for marriage. I said this:

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I was responding to whoever it was that said that they thought it was wrong for religious and evaluational reasons.

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Originally Posted by Mike

And it sounded like you were saying correctness (or the lack thereof) shouldn't be a factor.

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It should be, but it currently isn't. Shitty ass selfish people get married all the time.

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Originally Posted by Mike

While that is hilarious in the context of his routine, what kind of man goes back to the old pussy? Is having sex really so important that a guy will go screw some bitch he dumped? Fuck that.

I like the steak thing. You go to a restaurant, you're accustomed to eating. If you leave, they don't owe you a steak!

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True, but I think the overall point of it was women were suppose to understand how personal money is to men, and how in a way, giving half your income to them is a invasion on their life. Either way your up in somebodies business, making life difficult.

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Originally Posted by Hero

I never thought I'd say this, but Bush just lost my vote.

It's one thing to have a faith and belief in something. For someone to not agree with gay marriages is their own thing. But to even recommend making it Constitutional Law to ban such things?

He says it's to protect the sanctity (sp) of marriage - I would almost believe him if it weren't for the fact that marriages is, as is, about what? a 50%+ divorce rate? Marriage has become nothing more than another tax bracket, benefits, and health care pakages to the eyes of many. Plus many people who jump into marriage know that it's no longer taboo and forsaken to divorce, so people marry easier, thinking "oh, I can always get a divorce later." If Bush wanted to protect the sanctity of marriage, he'd do something about that. And nothing forcfully by the feds - he'd become a spokesperson for good marriages, not make it say, against the law to break up. Just be a voice informing people that "this is what marriage is and what it means and take it seriously."

But no.

This is also EXTREMELY sketchy, imo, because the core idea that made me believe in the 'right wing' is of little governmental involvement in the day-to-day lives of people. People are smart, and can take care of their own and each other. A lot of laws we have are common sense, although progressively we're getting to a point where government (left AND right) want to social engineer through law. I won't buy into it or stand for it. This idea of making it unconstitutional for gay marriage is just another nail in the coffin.

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Except for the whole "people are smart" thing, I agree with every damn word you typed. Bravo.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Men have been fucking boys all throughout history. Didn't stop us from being born.

People act like gay marriage is going to destroy America. Personally, I'm just working this whole straight-guy angle until the day comes when I can have rip-roaring gay ass sex and get a tax break for it.

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It may be only tuesday but that is the funniest thing you've said all week.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Men have been fucking boys all throughout history. Didn't stop us from being born.

People act like gay marriage is going to destroy America. Personally, I'm just working this whole straight-guy angle until the day comes when I can have rip-roaring gay ass sex and get a tax break for it.

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You know what? You've been an extremely surley son-of-a-bitch lately, and I haven't stopped laughing as a result.

Keep up the good work.