Almaci, sweetie, where have you been?Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
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Almaci, sweetie, where have you been?Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
I believe he's talking about this, http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/com...240848,00.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
I've heard that mentioned on local media as well, so it's not that "outrageous." I can't find you particular quotes, but I did see some interviews translated with Bin Laden by a western journalist as well as a Pakistani one in which he alludes to who he holds responsible for the golden age of Islam coming to an end. He does want revenge on that account, and given he professes a delusional desire to bring about an Islamic dominated world, it fits his profile. Actually, this:Quote:
The inability of the numerous rulers of Islamic Spain to maintain their unity weakened them so much that they were eventually gobbled up and driven out of Europe. Osama has frequently referred to the Caliphate's demise to caution Muslims and remind them that they must remain united in the face of enemies.
I think that's Diff's perception on Laden's delusional desire to take it back, as well as mine. Not as unreasonable as your perception of what that US general said amounted to, "Holy war declared by three star US General."Quote:
In the same videotaped statement, Osama alluded to what, in his mind, was clearly the event that led directly to that 'humiliation and degradation'.
'Let the whole world know that we shall never accept that the tragedy of Al-Andalus would be repeated,' he said, a reference to the Muslim empire of Al-Andalus and its Caliphate, which is centred on modern-day Spain.
EDIT: Nobody's denying Iraq being the main short term reason however, http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/wor...240644,00.html
Oh shit! Hey man, it finally happened... I found something I wholeheartedly agree with you on. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Yeah, cause I would much rather listen to DNC parroting in the form of, "Don't blame the al-qaeda terrorists for setting off the bombs, blame Bush!!" or, Dean's other favorite, "Some believe, Bush knew of the 9-11 attacks in advance..." - hint, hint, he let it happen anyway for political gain. Better yet, Madeleine Albright's remark that Bush has Usama bin Laden hidden away somewhere and will bring him out before the election. Sure as hell never heard any of that parroted 'round here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
Hehe. You should have paraphrased him, NW. That way the excess words aren't there. :)
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Originally Posted by Mfkzt
Supposed? They lied and tried to sweep things under the table like all governments--wow, big surprise! That plus the fact that a terrorist attack happened on their watch didn't help them any. I'm not shedding a tear for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by salmonax
I apologize if I gave the impression that I care two fucks about the Spaniards or their government- I don't. However, the policies the current Spanish administration is taking will affirm to terrorists that violence gets people to do what you want. That's the wrong message to be sending, and I fault them for trumpeting it so clearly and quickly after the attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
I stand corrected.
What happened in Spain is called democracy. If you don't like democracy, then you are a pinko. Are you some kind of subversive?Quote:
Originally Posted by salmonax
nevermind, post deleted.
Or a fascisct...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
*edit* - just making a comment! not trying to imply that anybody here is one.
Hey, just because I'm bursting with anticipation I've gotta mention here:
I'm leaving for Madrid tommorow, for my brother's wedding later in the week.
With this talk of fasciscts and pinko's, I might as well mention his wife's family is communist. I don't know what that has to do with anything.