Best remake?

I'll have to go with Twin Snakes. Though REmake was certainly commendable on technical merit alone, it still isn't, nor originally was, as good as MGS, imo. MGS has aged far better as well, and I don't mean graphically, but specifically control-wise and in just overall design. REmake still suffers from horrible control and item management, and though the puzzles are generally well thought-out, the task you're actually accomplishing is almost always completely idiotic, and making the entire game revolve around going from one of these tasks to the next can get very tedious.

That said, I still haven't gotten to Zero Mission, though I'm sure that will be very good as well.

nobody for skies of arcadia gc? sheesh, its the only remake that i felt addedenough things to consider actually buying. In relaity i consider the remake to be the most dastardly thing foisted on gamers since monthly fees in mmos. remakes take most of a good game for a previous generation(or dc, which was kind of a genreation unto itsself) and charges you to play again for about the same price, that stinks,particularly when you think that most remakes are lazy, and in this i am directly referring to the capcom re remakes for the gc. if any remake should be made the game either needs to be so rare that original copies can no longer be found, have significant aditions to justify the price, or a 20 dollar price tag, as an admission that they are just ports to a more powerful system that do nothing to justify the cost or new, more powerful environment, and not actual new games in themselves.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

nobody for skies of arcadia gc?

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It wasn't a remake, it was a port with a couple additions. There's a difference.

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

It wasn't a remake, it was a port with a couple additions. There's a difference.

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define the difference then, since that describes every single remake i have seen.

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Originally Posted by Grave

I have to say the best remake has to be REmake, only because it's so far ahead of the original in so many ways. RE's few jump scares had become so dull, the voice acting and environments seemed to only grow cheesier with time... The remake totally recreated the experience from the ground up, creating something superior in absolutely every way to the original.

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REmake is possibly my favorite game of all time. The fact that they changed around so much stuff really messed with your head too (if you were a veteran of the original).

Twin Snakes is the first game in months (since BG&E) that I got sucked into, so it gets my vote.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

define the difference then, since that describes every single remake i have seen.

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Man you just left yourself wide open for that. Prepare to be owned.

I think I'll vote for Resident Evil as well... although the other choices were good ones as well. Zero Mission might be a better remake though, that was excellent.

And Twin Snakes? Great fun but not enough was changed for me... it felt too much like the old one, mostly due to its layout and zero plot changes. Not that it needed those things, but still...

I hesitate to call Zero Mission a remake. 97% New map. New controlls. New moves. New weapons. It was way too original.

Most remakes never live up to the original. The SNES Mario All Stars game came sooooo close to being the equals of the 8 bit originals with more color and more modern sound....but they're off just enough that I'd rather play on my NES.

I'll have to go with REmake by default. If I considered Zero mission a remake I'd go with that, but I don't.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

define the difference then, since that describes every single remake i have seen.

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A port is the exact same code, with the exact same graphics, the exact gameplay, and the exact same music. When the Spiderman movie videogame was released on all three systems, even though the Xbox version had an extra level it was still a port.

REmake: Complete graphics overhaul, new areas, new gameplay touches, obviously not the original code in the slightest.
MGS:TS: Complete graphics overhaul, tougher AI, complete new set of moves, touched up and rerecorded script, new music, obviously not the original code in the slightest.
Metroid Zero Mission: Complete graphics overhaul, new music, new areas, altered existing areas, new versions of bosses, altered small things about the gameplay, obviously not the original code in the slightest.

Notice how all the remakes have all or some of totally new graphics, new gameplay, new music, and new areas, only keeping the underlying ideas, story, characters, and layout the same. Skies of Arcadia on GC had the same graphics, the same gameplay, the same music, the same areas, and merely added a couple touches here and there while still being obviously the original code in every way.

Note: By original code I'm referring to that in a general sense, I realize changes have to be made in order for it to run on other systems.