He fought back in the comics, but he was a just an old man and didn't stand a chance. He did try though, remembering the old days of being a crimefighter, before being bludgeoned to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
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He fought back in the comics, but he was a just an old man and didn't stand a chance. He did try though, remembering the old days of being a crimefighter, before being bludgeoned to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Its a scene that wasn't in the original theatrical release.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
The scene was in the Directors Cut and its included in the Ultimate Cut. Also, the Ultimate cut will flow like the Graphic Novel. Since it will have at certain acts ... the Tales of the Black Freighter anime seemlessly cut in the film.
This is also how Snyder wanted the film in the theaters.
Thanks STUDIO HEADS for saying NO. /sarcasm
Do they think crack is healthy in whatever fairyland you live in? It's far from the best superhero movie but there's no way it's the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
The ending got changed but it still worked. It wouldn't have worked had they kept it in 'cause they cut out the Black Freighter and the parts with the artist creating the design for the monster and all the other little details that would have made it make sense. The whole point of the ending was Ozymandias uniting the world under the threat of a force that none of the nations could face alone and it worked.
Wow people complaining about the music in a comic book movie. Yeah man every time I read the comic the musical score blows me away. Get real. The music wasn't fuckin' badass but it didn't distract from the movie [unless you're watching looking for shit to nitpick].
As for their strength, how else could a chubby middle-aged man and such a frail looking woman whoop the ass of a group of gang members. I know it's supposed to be realistic but it's set in a universe where a normal human can physically train to the point he can catch a bullet so the fact they're strong as shit doesn't really seem out of place when you think about it. The comics never say that they were as strong as normal people.
Except your missing one of the other major points of the ending in the comic is that God accepts that bad things must sometimes happen because more good than bad will come out of it while in the movie God accepts the blame for extraordinarily bad/evil things and allows himself to be demonized because he knows that more good will come out of it. That is a pretty huge thematic change right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal Kaboom
Haven't we covered this before? Multiple times?
Changing the giant squid is fine, but blaming it on Manhatten is not fine.
It did distract from the movie. And I went into the movie wanting to like it. I left liking it, despite the soundtrack usage. The music was so poorly thought out that almost every scene with music pulled me right out of an otherwise great movie. When I read the comic, there was no musical score, which was way better than the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal Kaboom
And I don't want "fuckin' badass" music, I am not 10 anymore. I just want something that fits.
Er... Manhattan is far short of God. First off, he says so himself, but more importantly, while aware of the chains of causality on a level unimaginable to us mere mortals, he is still bound by them. To normal people he looks all-powerful, but the truth is he's as powerless (in terms of the only measure of power that truly matters, the ability to alter one's destiny) as we all are, but stripped of even the comforting illusion of free will.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
No, his character is meant to represent God, a God that is unsure of himself yest, but still God.
Note the going off to create life at the end of the novel.
He might have represented god to some degree but no one in the universe of the comic considered him a god. In fact the only nation that looked to him for protection was the U.S. the only reason the other countries didn't do shit was because they didn't want to have to fuck with Dr. Manhattan. If that's you're interpretation of the ending then it's still the same "God accepts that bad things must happen" except this time it was people dying and hating him. Additionally one could argue that theme of the ending wasn't "God accepts that bad things must sometimes happen because more good than bad will come out of it". It was more that the only thing that's going to get all nations of the world to stop pointing their nukes at each other is to give them a target they can all agree on is more dangerous." In that sense Dr. Manhattan fits even better than the squid from the original in the sense that everybody was already tense because they knew what Manhattan could do and he clearly chosen to be on the U.S.'s side. Now that he's on no one's side and showed it by killing a ton of people around the world all the nations can focus on him with Ozzy pulling all the strings of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
We'll have to agree to disagree. Honestly, I watched it once and for better or worse I can't remember one track or tune. I guess we'll have to chalk it up to our differences in taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
If Moore intended him to represent God, then the powerlessness I described above, so heartbreakingly illustrated in the chapter he spends alone on Mars, utterly torpedoes that intent. I think it's more like he represents science - capable of amazing things, but unable to help with humanity's biggest problems, namely those it creates for itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Hallelujah and All Along the Watchtower almost ruined their respective scenes. It was that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal Kaboom