Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Official Thread

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Originally Posted by Bojack

Totally disagree, Multi Missile is the way to go when fighting the tentacles

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I didn't use missiles at all. I used the annihilator beam on the tentacles - the homing capabilities meant I didn't really have to lock on in order to hit them. Then I pounded the core with the charged annihilator shots - charged light shots work great too, but you don't really need to save dark ammo at this point, so why not. This also saves missiles for the third form - I used super missiles and sonic boom exclusively on the mutated emperor.

During the Emperor's second form, I bombed ten of the eleven tentacles slots, and then kept bombing the Inglets to refill beam ammo and health - I think dyomides mentioned this earlier. I was back to full for the third form, so you can afford to go nuts with ammo during the boss' first phase, and not worry about losing health that much either. If you've got enough tanks, you'll just outlast and overpower him.

I found Meta Ridley/Metroid Prime to be much tougher than the final fights here. Following that, despite all the reports to the contrary, I thought combat in Echoes was easier than Prime overall. There was nothing like Thardus or the Omega Pirate in Echoes....actually I think the Spider and Boost Guardians killed me the most. Echoes' map navigation and puzzles were a lot more complex though.

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No, finding all nine keys took me about an hour and a half

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Same here. I didn't think finding the Sky keys was difficult or lengthy. There was one in Torvus Bog that took me a little while to track down (because the Bog sucks), but the Keybearer Lore word in red gives you the name of the exact room they're in.

Too bad Super Metroid isn't unlockable. At least so far. Wonder if beating Hard with 100% might do it.

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Originally Posted by BioMechanic

I didn't use missiles at all. I used the annihilator beam on the tentacles - the homing capabilities meant I didn't really have to lock on in order to hit them. Then I pounded the core with the charged annihilator shots - charged light shots work great too, but you don't really need to save dark ammo at this point, so why not. This also saves missiles for the third form - I used super missiles and sonic boom exclusively on the mutated emperor.

During the Emperor's second form, I bombed ten of the eleven tentacles slots, and then kept bombing the Inglets to refill beam ammo and health - I think dyomides mentioned this earlier. I was back to full for the third form, so you can afford to go nuts with ammo during the boss' first phase, and not worry about losing health that much either. If you've got enough tanks, you'll just outlast and overpower him.

I found Meta Ridley/Metroid Prime to be much tougher than the final fights here. Following that, despite all the reports to the contrary, I thought combat in Echoes was easier than Prime overall. There was nothing like Thardus or the Omega Pirate in Echoes....actually I think the Spider and Boost Guardians killed me the most. Echoes' map navigation and puzzles were a lot more complex though.



Same here. I didn't think finding the Sky keys was difficult or lengthy. There was one in Torvus Bog that took me a little while to track down (because the Bog sucks), but the Keybearer Lore word in red gives you the name of the exact room they're in.

Too bad Super Metroid isn't unlockable. At least so far. Wonder if beating Hard with 100% might do it.

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I use Ann. Beam for the tentacles the first time but ran out of light and dark ammo because of it and there fore the 2nd time thru I used missiles to save on beam ammo so I could go ape shit on the final form with Ann. Beam.

One of the Dark Torvus Keys was a TOTAL BITCH for me to find. I had no clue where it was and spent like I swear seven hours looking for this damn thing. As soon as I found it the game went smoothly till I needed to find Power Bombs which were also a bitch, I cried uncle and looked it up on Gamefaqs. Other than those two occurances the game went smoothly for me.

Holy shit if Super Metroid 3 was unlockable this would make Prime 2 best game EVER! (I want to use more exclamation points but I know what happened to some other guy for using too many).

I just finished Metroid Prime 2, it's definately one of the best GC games out there, but i still didnt find it as challenging or difficult as Metroid Prime 1. The levels in MP2 were very complex and deep, i like how there was more emphasis on the morph ball levels(inlcuding the magnetic rail), but the action was very easy, the only boss that gave me a hard time was the Boost Guardian, the rest were all a piece of cake(inlcuding ing emperor and dark samus). where as in MP1 i was on the tip of my toes, the fights were very challenging(if not hard, bosses were smart and complex), and that gian pirate boss slapped me like a little bitch. ofcourse meta-ridley and metroid prime(the boss) made me pull my hair out in frustration!

I also felt that MP2 didnt have as many enemies as MP1 did.

anyways, AAA game nontheless, i can't wait to see what Retro has instores for us once they announce Metroid Prime 3 :)


next game....Resident Evil 4.

btw, does the ending depend on the percentage complete like MP1? it took me 26 hours, 75%, 5 super bombs, 150 dark/light beam, 170 missles and 11 energy tanks.

can't wait to see some nerd do a time run and finish the game in an hour! ;)

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Originally Posted by marwan

btw, does the ending depend on the percentage complete like MP1? it took me 26 hours, 75%, 5 super bombs, 150 dark/light beam, 170 missles and 11 energy tanks.

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you get a little longer of an ending if you get 100%

bassicaly after the ending you saw it shows the planet from space and you see these blueish particles collect together and form Dark Samus (metroid prime) in space and then it ends, so there will obviously be a metroid prime 3, which will probably finish off the prime story arch

I ended up beating the game with 100% items 99% scans

Well.

After putting it off for months, I finally decided to just suck it up and beat this game. I'm now utterly convinced that it's the Mega Man 6 of the Metroid series. It's sloppy, has no sense of flow whatsoever (the Sanctuary looks nifty, but it doesn't fit in with the rest of the game world at all), comes to a screeching halt several times, and advances the series so little that it's very easy to forget it exists (I actually did forget it existed until I looked over my GC games).

What's really sad is that it had a ton of potential, and there are a few scattered moment of brilliance that show just what it could have been. But the dark world mechanic absolutely sucked, and the levels don't flow well at all. And really, there's just no reason for it to exist. It doesn't advance or expand the story, there are no interesting additions to the gameplay, and nothing we saw in this game will ever be mentioned again. Even the presentation of the story, from the very beginning, feels as though Retro knows it doesn't really matter. Prime was a side-story, but it felt important in the overall scheme of things even though it wasn't. This just feels like a filler title. Hopefully the next Prime (and we all know there will be one) has a bit more effort put into it than this glorified mod did.

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Originally Posted by sethsez

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I agree completely. I had been thinking about why I didn't enjoy this one as much as the first, and you pretty much nailed it. The first prime had me desperately searching for new items and power ups so that I could advance in the game, but this one had me collecting stuff just so that I could get more stuff. Highly disappointing.

MP3 better be on the Revolution. MP2 is a great game, but no where near as good as MP1. The dark world in MP2 was total meh'

MP1 came together in such a beautifull way that cannot even describe it's beauty. till this day i crave going back and replaying MP1, which is not the case with MP2.


EDIT: MP2 was too easy that it spoiled the game even more.

I as well didnt find it as challending OR difficult as metroid prime 1.

[QUOTE=marwan]i still didnt find it as challenging or difficult as Metroid Prime 1.

I think it was a bit harder than Prime, actually (fucking boost guardian). Still easy overall, though.

I think it was a lot worse because I HATE choking environments where your health goes down. I like to take my time, and going from light bowl to light bowl was lame.

Actually, I haven't even finished it. At least a half a dozen times, I lost an hour of play time because I hadn't saved in a while and something killed me (hey, it was the darkness, yay).