Another American Beheading...

SpoDaddy, you rule.

Yes, I know I'm telling SpoDaddy he rules.

As for Kerry, I plan on voting for him before I vote against him.

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Originally Posted by lithium

And remind me again how involved Iraq was in 9/11? hmmm?

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I'm really fucking tired of the war on terrorism being turned into a big political crowbar to try to jimmy Kerry into the White House. The 9/11 commission is a partisan joke, the notion that we're making things worse for ourselves by being in Iraq is foolish. They're murderous fanatics, they've attempted shit against even France, and France has done nothing but grab their ankles before insane murderers for decades.

We went into Iraq because we know Saddam hates us, we know he was developing WMD's and we know he had a working relationship with Al Queda (even the 9/11 commission admits to that, after discovering a slew of CIA reports from the late 90's regarding Hussein and Bin Laden discussing a coordination of their efforts in developing viral weapons). We had it on good intel that he had WMD's. I still believe he did. That we haven't found them in a year means nothing, Hitler's hidden stash of biological weapons wasn't found until a few years ago by accident.

There's no reasoning with these people, no negotiating. They want us dead. They'll gladly die themselves if it means killing us. The survival of our way of life depends on us ferreting out and killing them first. The notion that John Kerry would have done a better job is laughable, he's the most political politician I've ever seen. If the polls said people like Hitler he'd grow a Hitler mustache and stroke it on the cover of Rolling Stone. The guy's Vietnam backround is a joke, he was there for 3 months and racked up THREE purple hearts, yet still can't explain exactly why he was awarded any of them. Then he came back here and called all his fellow soldiers sadistic inhuman monsters and threw his medals across a lawn to launch his political career. Then he realized that it was in his best interest to stop pissing on the Vietnam vets and backpedaled, "those weren't my medals" "I never said what you heard me say", "I voted for that before I didn't".

Kerry's the fucking EPITOME of weasel politician, I wouldn't trust him to run the local Funcoland.

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I take it you've stopped listening to Stern, then? ;)

You going to be posting more often, man?

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

We went into Iraq because we know Saddam hates us,... and we know he had a working relationship with Al Queda (even the 9/11 commission admits to that, after discovering a slew of CIA reports from the late 90's regarding Hussein and Bin Laden discussing a coordination of their efforts in developing viral weapons).

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Wait... where was this again? I did not read this, could I get a link please.

As for the beheading. It further shows how fucked up these people are.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

His comment was simply asking that, if Al-Qaeda "minutemen" are killing American hostages in retaliation to America's presence in Iraq, what presence was in Iraq that "drove" Al-Qaeda to fly planes into our WTC?

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Isn't that a contradiction of theories? Or is the answer not Hussein?

Look, it's stupid to pass these beheadings off as an okay for torturing Iraqi prisoners, but it's equally stupid to put so much hype on the prisoner abuse. Both are bad and, as far as we should be concerned, on the same level of bad. As such, both should be used as a perfect reason as to why we need to work harder to end this conflict.

No offense to Spo, but if you're caring about things like war records, your priorities are in the wrong place. Number one should be the end of THIS war, not who did what way back when. This goes for Kerry with his questionable service and Bush with his questionable service (or lack thereof). We cannot leave Iraq because it's not good for the people there. We can't just drop a few bombs. We have to remain rational in the face of these militant extremists and work past it. We're in too deep to dig out now and I don't care who got us here or how: it has nothing to do with this poor guy getting his head cut off. This crap has to stop.

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Isn't that a contradiction of theories?

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No.

It's really simple.

People like to say that these hostages, Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, who ever, are being kidnapped and killed in RETALIATION to America's presence in Iraq and thus implying if we left they would stop.

HOWEVER:

There WAS no American presence in Iraq before September 11th, yet they still attacked us. They attacked the WTC twice, the USS Cole, and American embassies in Africa. So what's that in retaliation of? It surely can't be because of American presence in Iraq, becuase THERE WAS NONE!

And that's the point. The idea that these are going on because we are in Iraq are nonsensical and have no basis in fact or reality. They hate us, they want us dead, and they will fight until we are dead or they are dead. And, as I said before, that's really all there is to it.

Yeah, I don't believe it's in retaliation for toppling Saddam + hanging around , because it's Al-Qaida that's mainly doing it and they have nothing to do with Saddam. It's just terrorists being opporunistic because some of their enemies are a jeep ride away, rather then a plane fligth away.

Hey Mike, how are you? I didn't stop listening to Stern, I just don't pay attention to his political rants because he's got no idea what he's talking about. All this FCC bullshit has nothing to do with Bush or even the Presidential branch of government, it's a bipartisan masturbation session aimed at a "safe" target (the vague notion of indecency).

As for war records, I'm not implying that having a flashy one or one at all is important. I'm simply saying that having a really sketchy one is a problem. And I don't see why people keep knocking Bush on his military service, he took legal leave from the National Guard then made up his time later. That's not to say he's a war hero, far from it, but it's not sketchy or immoral. He was a guy that enlisted in the military and never saw combat, nothing more nothing less. If you're going to knock Bush, do it on stuff like his insane immigration policies or his lockdown on all stem cell research. In terms of his handling of the war on terrorism I think he's golden. The notion of a John Kerry Presidency keeps me up nights, when I first heard him say that he looks forward to being the second black president of the United States I was deeply disturbed as a black man and I'm not even black!

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The notion of a John Kerry Presidency keeps me up nights, when I first heard him say that he looks forward to being the second black president of the United States I was deeply disturbed as a black man and I'm not even black!

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