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Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Republican senator for Pennsylvania.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I've heard women who think other women shouldn't be allowed to have careers or lives outside of caring for their husbands. That doesn't mean anywhere near the majority of them believe that, and doesn't really prove much of anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
And Rick Santorum is a huge bigot. He loves comparing gay people to pedophiles any chance he gets, and is on the same level as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell on this particular issue. Some anti-gay people are capable of making reasonable-sounding arguments, but he isn't one of them, and he's one of the most prominant people in this issue.
Really, though, I'm still waiting for someone to show WHY gay marriage will undermine regular marriage. People keep saying it'll happen, but they're not quite sure how, and the fact is that every place that has legalized gay marriage has remained unchanged by it. After all, it's not changing straight marriage one bit.
And that's before you take into account the number of marriages that end in separation rather than divorce or the number of disfunctional marriages that would be better off ending in divorce. Gays aren't capable of destroying the institution of marriage because we heterosexuals have already annihilated it.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
That's beside the point, though. To me the issue is whether gay marriage should be mandated by state or federal law, not how I personally feel about it. Being a fan of states rights, I choose the former. There's no need to further corrupt the constitution by adding an amendment to appease the religious right.
It's funny how the party that claims to want smaller government actually wants fewer government services but more governmental control in our lives.
If you take the "gay" our of consensual (gay) sex which I assumed was added then his statement is a fact. If the supreme court gave the right to have consensual sex within your home then they would be giving the right for consensual people to commit any of the acts in his statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
The gay is added because that was the context of his statement, it's common for these be added to articles to help clarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Except that you do have the right to have incest or commit adultery in most states. Bigamy and polygamy are issues of marriage, and thus don't fall under his own little "in the privacy of your home" rule, but if he's just talking about a guy routinely sleeping with more than one woman, that's not illegal, either.
So I fail to see his point.
Incidentally, that quote was taken from an interview in which he stated that Texas had every right to arrest two men for having sex in their own home.
Oh well. All I wanted to do was F anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
There are plenty of weirdos (how insensitive!) that love (as in, 'loooooove') odd things. I really didn't want to get graphic here but...Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
Look. We ALL agree (don't we?) that society gets to set SOME limits (no man-dog relationships). So let's stop crying that society has NO RIGHT to limit certain kinds of relationships. You can argue society shouldn't limit gay relationships. But you cannot argue society has no right to limit relationships.
He's right. The Supreme Court has now said consensual sex (no matter its nature) is okay (as long as it's behind closed doors). As long as the incest/polygamy/bigamy is consensual it's legal (in the eyes of 5 Supreme Court Justices). If I were the lawyer for any polygamist in UT you better believe I've already filed my brief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Santorum R, PA
That society has a vested interest in heterosexual marriage?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Protip: Read up on the institution of marriage; learn how it developed in the civilized world and how society came to officially recognize it. (Your research will no doubt reveal marriages in non- and pre-Christian societies.)
No doubt. Good thing we've had all that gay 'marriage' around, keeping us from the brink. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I'm glad we agree marriage is sacred. And you're right that too many ppl will go out of their way to condemn gay marriage while having nothing to say about broken marriages. Not enough married ppl take marriage seriously, IMHO. Maybe when we start to take it seriously again the, "What's the big deal? It's only marriage!" argument will go away. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
It has nothing to do with bigottry. The people who push these kind of agendas are the ones I'd like to see move far, far away. I don't care if gay people live near me. I just don't want the type that feel the need to shove it in everyone else's face within a couple thousand miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
Now to come up with a plan to get the militant feminists to hit the road...
Come on. You're too smart to try with that logic. Are you seriously trying to compare a conscious, consensual gay relationship with some nut who wants to date outside their species? Show me a dog who can say "I do".Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
That's missing the point and the context. He was arguing men shouldn't legally be allowed to get busy behind closed doors. I think you can agree that there's some middle ground between that and screwing your own sister, which can have serious consequences in terms of creating children with birth defects.Quote:
He's right. The Supreme Court has now said consensual sex (no matter its nature) is okay (as long as it's behind closed doors). As long as the incest/polygamy/bigamy is consensual it's legal (in the eyes of 5 Supreme Court Justices). If I were the lawyer for any polygamist in UT you better believe I've already filed my brief.
Explain to me who gay sex harms.
Explain to me how legalizing gay marriage affects straight marriage in any way.Quote:
That society has a vested interest in heterosexual marriage?
Only if they later get into the White House, then take us to war to prove how brave thier are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron