Who won the debate?

Kerry was born and bred to be captain of the debate team.

Of course, one doesn't look to the captain of the debate team to lead the football team to victory...

;)

But you don't let the Monkey mascot lead the football team either.

We are so fucked.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

=/ No one won. After the election we are still going to have one of those two dipshits for president.

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Well, now at least we know who won the thread. :bang:

I hope Bush puts up more of a fight next time. There was no joy in watching him get thoroughly trounced. It was actually kind of painful to watch.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

But you don't let the Monkey mascot lead the football team either.

We are so fucked.

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uhuh http://zhongwen.com/bush/w-cheer.gif

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

=/ No one won. After the election we are still going to have one of those two dipshits for president.

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This is true, but hopefully, the American people will be smart enough to put the lesser of the 2 dipshits in office. I mean, Kerry isn't the greatest guy for president, but we need Bush out of office. But after watching the debate, Kerry gained a few more points in my book.

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Originally Posted by DarkCrow676

This is true, but hopefully, the American people will be smart enough to put the lesser of the 2 dipshits in office. I mean, Kerry isn't the greatest guy for president, but we need Bush out of office. But after watching the debate, Kerry gained a few more points in my book.

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I just don't like Kerry. I don't like his tone. I don't like how he carries himself. I don't like his attitude. I don't like his vice president. I don't like how little he has said about what he plans to do when elected.

Great, it is really awesome he isn't Bush. NOW, could he please tell me exactly HOW he plans on doing things different, and not just telling me he is going to do things different?

I swear this election is like picking between an idiot and an asshole who may only be slightly more smart than the idiot. Sure he is fucking awesome at talking, but what exactly has he said? Really?

I'm really thinking of writing in Mickey mouse or Kim Possible or something. I want my disgust for this election and its candidates on record.. The two party system has really let us down if these two worthless pieces-of-shit are the BEST each party could find.

You don't think there are real, substantive differences between the candidates?

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I just don't like Kerry. I don't like his tone. I don't like how he carries himself. I don't like his attitude. I don't like his vice president. I don't like how little he has said about what he plans to do when elected.

Great, it is really awesome he isn't Bush. NOW, could he please tell me exactly HOW he plans on doing things different, and not just telling me he is going to do things different?

I swear this election is like picking between an idiot and an asshole who may only be slightly more smart than the idiot. Sure he is fucking awesome at talking, but what exactly has he said? Really?

I'm really thinking of writing in Mickey mouse or Kim Possible or something. I want my disgust for this election and its candidates on record.. The two party system has really let us down if these two worthless pieces-of-shit are the BEST each party could find.

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Not to stop your ranting, but you do realize that you can go to either Bush's or Kerry's websites for detailed explanations of their agendas and plans for their respective presidencies, right?

I mean, I understand the want for clear, and detailed plans, but with the two-minute response time for the debates, there's just no way possible to give much besides sweeping, vague generalities.

In this day and age, there's no reason to be uninformed, especially since information is global (ie. Internet). So by all means go there, read up, and if you still aren't satisfied with his initiatives and agendas feel free to bitch and moan all you like.

BTW, back on-topic. In all honesty (without the usual spin thrown from both sides), Bush got STOMPED by Kerry, both in substance and style. This in the field Bush was suppossed to win easily. Let's see how he handles the Domestic debates, a topic which Kerry leads by double-digits in the polls.

And I have to say, what the hell more do these "undecided voters" need before they wake up?!? There are plenty of differences between the two of them if they only open your eyes and watch tv/read the newspaper/go online. When I watched The Daily Show segment with the reporter interviewing undecided voters I nearly fell out of my seat with laughter with how poignant it was. How can you not decide between two men who barely ever agree with each other on any issue? Two men who have vastly different economic, enviornmental, medical, and foreign affairs plans?

If you only hear about the bickering between the two of them, why don't you read and find out what they're bickering about instead?

I'm not the most political saavy person around, but I do my fair share of reading and watching news channels and such. The only thing you need to do is decide what it is you want policy wise in this country, look at each candidate and see whose politics match up with yours the most, and stick to it. Like it was said in an earlier thread, we create these politicians; they are the best we have for now. So instead of complaining about how they both suck and such, learn to deal with the cards you are dealt with.

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And I have to say, what the hell more do these "undecided voters" need before they wake up?!? There are plenty of differences between the two of them if they only open your eyes and watch tv/read the newspaper/go online. When I watched The Daily Show segment with the reporter interviewing undecided voters I nearly fell out of my seat with laughter with how poignant it was. How can you not decide between two men who barely ever agree with each other on any issue? Two men who have vastly different economic, enviornmental, medical, and foreign affairs plans?

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Maybe they are repubs who don't want to vote for an idiot?

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I'm not the most political saavy person around, but I do my fair share of reading and watching news channels and such. The only thing you need to do is decide what it is you want policy wise in this country, look at each candidate and see whose politics match up with yours the most, and stick to it. Like it was said in an earlier thread, we create these politicians; they are the best we have for now. So instead of complaining about how they both suck and such, learn to deal with the cards you are dealt with.

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What are you, fucking 12? What a naive spill of shit you just posted. You can't just go by what they say they are going to do. Both parties are well known for going back on the issues they run on. Bush for example said he was against using the military for the VERY THING he is using them for right now.

To ignore the character, past, and behavior of those running and those under them, and then pin your hopes on what they claim they will do is just idiotic.