The Peaks of the Genres for this Generation

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31 Oct 2004, 01:55 PM
Ajinryu

Action/Adventure: Zelda: Wind Waker
Platforming: Mario Sunshine
Racing: F-Zero GX
Role Playing: Phantasy Star Online: Episode 1 & 2
Sports: Tony Hawks Underground 2
31 Oct 2004, 02:09 PM
flux=rad

I think you guys arguing over the definition of the genres are missing the point. Obviously, the genre definitions are completely arbitrary (as they would be in any thread like this). Yoshi has given you fairly complete genre definitions and asked you to pick out your favorite game of that genre based on these definitions. Arguing with the definitions of the genre is pretty pointless, since any other definitions would be just as arbitrary.
31 Oct 2004, 02:42 PM
Clash!

Action/Adventure
Ico: I have never been imerssed so much as I was in this game. It really fringes on Platformer, but I have more traditional opinion twords Platforming. Runner Up: Metroid Prime

Platforming
Vexx: Worst character design ever, best platformer since Mario 64. The game has more just pure platforming than any platformer I have played since Skullmonkeys. Plus its got plenty of challange, bottomless pits, and fantastic environments. Runner Up: Super Mario Sunshine

Racing
Project Gotham Racing 2: Great graphics, lots of cars, lots of courses, and gameplay that makes you learn more than just racing lines. Sure its a sequal to a game(s) that already invented the Kudos system, this one just did it better and offered more. Runner Up: Burnout 3

Role Playing
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Best Star Wars game ever made, bar none. Better storyline than anything Lucas has written in recent times, great characters, amazing worlds. And conversations come into gameplay, rather than just cycling through text. Runner Up: I did'nt like any other RPGs

Sports
ESPN Hockey 2k5: Hockey games rule, ESPN makes the best Hockey game. Runner Up: ESPN NFL 2k5
31 Oct 2004, 03:45 PM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by flux=rad

I think you guys arguing over the definition of the genres are missing the point. Obviously, the genre definitions are completely arbitrary (as they would be in any thread like this). Yoshi has given you fairly complete genre definitions and asked you to pick out your favorite game of that genre based on these definitions. Arguing with the definitions of the genre is pretty pointless, since any other definitions would be just as arbitrary.

I don't think it's being arbitrtary at all. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find 5 people who think that Zelda, Metal Slug and Doom are all in the same genre. Those games have almost nothing in common.
31 Oct 2004, 04:19 PM
Fe 26

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Originally Posted by sleeveboy

I disagree. RPGs in the traditional, turn-based, stat-driven, linear, JRPG sense have been very poor. But this generation has taken the genre into boundary-breaking directions (KOTOR, GTA:SA). So I'd actually argue that RPGs are better than ever.

GTA:SA is rpg in what way?
31 Oct 2004, 04:24 PM
Opaque

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

GTA:SA is rpg in what way?

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Originally Posted by me in the official thread

Anyone else think GTA has reached RPG status?

I mean shit, you increase your skills at driving, shooting, holding your breath and running. You can customise your character in terms of looks, and physical ability. You explore a large world, interact with a lot of chracters, get new weapons with better abilities, do sidequests and mini games and it has an engrossing story.

I would call this an action rpg before I would call Zelda an action RPG.

Anyway:

Action/Adventure
1: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2: Beyond Good & Evil
3: Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Platforming
1: Prince of Persia Sand of Time
2: Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
3: Klonoa 2 Lunatea's Veil

Racing
1: Burnout 3
2: Project Gotham Racing 2
3: Colin Mcrae 4

Role Playing
1: Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
2: Final Fantasy X
3: Kingdom Hearts

Sports
1: SSX 3
2: Hot Shots Golf Fore!
3: I don't really play sports games
31 Oct 2004, 05:37 PM
flux=rad

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

I don't think it's being arbitrtary at all. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find 5 people who think that Zelda, Metal Slug and Doom are all in the same genre. Those games have almost nothing in common.

I agree that few would agree that Zelda, Metal Slug, and Doom are in the same genre. But this doesn't lead me to belive that clear delineations of genre are not arbitrary. Ask those people to put Zelda, Metal Slug, and Doom into their genres, and I think you'd get as many answers as people you asked. My point is simply that genre arguments go nowhere. Yoshi has pretty clearly defined the genres for this discussion, so there is little reason to get into genre arguments here.
31 Oct 2004, 05:54 PM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by flux=rad

Ask those people to put Zelda, Metal Slug, and Doom into their genres,

Action rpg, action platform, fps. I've never heard them called anything else, unless Slug is tossed into some generic shooter category.
31 Oct 2004, 06:29 PM
Fe 26

I thought metalslug was just a sidescroller
31 Oct 2004, 06:34 PM
Jeremy

RPG - Shenmue
Racing - Project Gotham Racing 2
Platformer - Sly Cooper
Action-Adventure - Beyond Good and Evil
Action RPG - Zelda: Wind Waker
Extreme sports - Jet Grind Radio
Fighting - Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution

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