Offical: I voted Today thread...

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

That's pathetic. Kerry will run just as far to the center after the election as Clinton did. Both of them pretended to be moderate during the campaign. Kerry, like Clinton, will return to being wildly liberal the next day, if he is victorious. There is abolutely nothing out there, not even from either side of Kerry's mouth, that would make a rational person think otherwise.

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If you think Clinton was wildly liberal you're out of your fucking mind.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot that your definition of wildly liberal is anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh.

You should ask some of those girls, "Hey what's your Bush's stance on global warming?"

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

That's pathetic. Kerry will run just as far to the center after the election as Clinton did. Both of them pretended to be moderate during the campaign. Kerry, like Clinton, will return to being wildly liberal the next day, if he is victorious. There is abolutely nothing out there, not even from either side of Kerry's mouth, that would make a rational person think otherwise.

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Ahh, Yoshi, you're crazy. Clinton had a lot of problems, but he was in no way "wildly liberal". He ran a fairly moderate government with a limited number of liberal excesses that were kept in check by a Republican congress.

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Originally Posted by Stone

Ahh, Yoshi, you're crazy. Clinton had a lot of problems, but he was in no way "wildly liberal". He ran a fairly moderate government with a limited number of liberal excesses that were kept in check by a Republican congress.

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Clinton was "fairly moderate"? Jesus Christ. I guess Reagan was too then?

Welfare reform?

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Originally Posted by Stone

Welfare reform?

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He talked a good game, but it didn't happen, much like national health care. At least welfare reform would have been positive, unlike national health care.

Welfare reform did happen, man - he made significant improvements to our welfare system that I would have been happy to see a Republican accomplish. How about Defense of Marriage?

The Amendments adding "between a man and a woman" in marriage defintions to state constitutions are being passed by huge margins. A bit of my faith in America has been restored.

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Originally Posted by Stone

Ahh, Yoshi, you're crazy. Clinton had a lot of problems, but he was in no way "wildly liberal". He ran a fairly moderate government with a limited number of liberal excesses that were kept in check by a Republican congress.

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Clinton's political standing didn't matter, what did matter is his globalist, US hating policies.

I respect you for voting Kerry, I gave my last minute thoughts in the election booth and voted straight Republican but the thing about more special forces is not the answer, I think Donald Rumsfields "specialist warfare" ideals are royally going to fuck us in the future if they are not fixed. We are fighting a lot of unconventional wars but our mostly specialized conventional units (US Marines, Army Rangers, etc.) are doing a fine job of fighting, I will not bring up the points about how we are kicking terrorisms ass but I would definately say that our troops are fighting well and doing a good job. The US NEEDS to remain a conventional power and Rumsfield and those that share his ideals are shifting our military in the wrong direction.

To sum up the purpose of the thread I voted for the first time today with no line whatsoever, was attacked by political activists before I walked into the polling place and voted for Dubbya, Arlen Spector and the rest of the Republicans on the board.

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Originally Posted by Stone

Welfare reform did happen, man - he made significant improvements to our welfare system that I would have been happy to see a Republican accomplish. How about Defense of Marriage?

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Defense of marriage? How about "don't ask don't tell"?

Welfare cannot be improved. That's like improving hell. It might be a crisp 177 degrees, but it's still fucking hot.