You would force a woman to have a child if she was raped. Forcing her to carry around a constant reminder that she was violated, and made into an object.
Dude, you're a fucking monster. Seriously.
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You would force a woman to have a child if she was raped. Forcing her to carry around a constant reminder that she was violated, and made into an object.
Dude, you're a fucking monster. Seriously.
I'm a radical secularist, global socialist, liberal environmentalist.
- I'm pro-choice in 100% of cases, I do not consider it a human being entitled to citizen's rights until the umbilical cord has been served and it becomes a self-sustaining organism.
- I'm anti-death penalty in all but the most extreme of circumstances, and even then I would only support lobotomizing or some other means of pacification other than death. I believe in rehabilitation when viable and imprisonment for the rest.
- I against gay marriage for the same reason I am against heterosexual marriage; it is government recognition of a religious activity. I believe the rights extended to people granted under a 'civil union' should be given to all those who enter into the contract regardless of their sexual preference. I also believe these should be the only means by which these benefits are incurred, and that the government should remain suitably distant from religion in all of its forms.
- I am pro-welfare because the percentage of those bilking the system is marginal when one looks at the facts. I understand that the only way to help the working poor tweak their cultural mindset from one of poverty to one of prosperity is through a certain level of federal assistance.
- I am pro-affirmative action in that I understand that women and minorities are hindered by established prejudices in our culture. If the only way to help promote diversity and turn us from an exclusive culture to an inclusive one is by forcing the acknowledgement of equal rights and opportunities for others then so be it.
- I believe in no censorship whatsoever under any circumstances. Everyone should be free to express their views, opinions, and expressions without fear of being repressed by the governmental entity.
- I believe morals should be not be upheld simply because of religious brainwashing but because of a mutual understanding for the rights of our fellow human beings. This way we aren't burdened by the moronic superstitious and ridiculous mores that religion has caused to hinder humanity from progressive unity.
- I believe the media plays a hugely important role in our society and must continue to be open and present a wide array of viewpoints from around the world.
- I am against allowing Corporate America to rape our planet of its natural resources, destroy its environment to the point of making it near inhabitable, and placing an ever tightening strangehold on the American worker. I am extremely pro-workers rights and think that they should have far more power in the workplace than they do now. I think that the government should tightly regulate Corporate America to keep it from gaming the system and using shady trade deals with countries that shamelessly exploit their workers to buy shoddy goods at illegally discounted prices.
- I am pro-control in that I believe no citizen has a viable reason to be in possession of assault weapons, heavy explosives, anti-armor and anti-material weapons, or anything that goes beyond the bounds of hunting or logical home defense.
- I am an atheist leaning agnostic in that I do not believe in the existence of God, but I'm not arrogant enough to rule out the possibility that I could be wrong. I am totally against organized religion in all of its forms, which I consider to nothing more than antiquated social control surrounded by ignorant superstitions. I do think that people have a right to believe in whatever spiritual system they choose, but it should be a highly personal matter, not a public one. I am strongly against the idea of proselytizing to the underprivileged or disenfranchised with incentives, which I see as very underhanded coercion.
- I believe the military should now and forever be at the whim of the civilian authority and the people who elected it. I am strongly against nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons proliferation in all countries, including our own. I think the U.S. should spend more time helping reform and empower the United Nations to become the global entity of policing and interdiction that it was designed to be. If this comes at some perceived cost of our 'sovereignty' simply by making our soldiers where a baby blue helmet as opposed to a red beret then so be it. I think that U.S. soldiers who commit war crimes should be subject to international law established at Nuremburg and adjudicated today by the World Court entity.
- I believe that anyone on recognized U.S. soil (and three miles from the continental mainland) are entitled to all the rights of a citizen as was set down in the Constitution. This goes for P.O.Ws as well as those deemed to be enemy combatants. Those being held should be immediately granted legal council, and if the evidence against them bears fruit then they should be tried in a court of law.
And finally,
- I am a fucking lunatic who should rarely be taken seriously.
I know there are a lot of issues I missed, but I can always fill them in later, right?
Thank you. You, um, at least were intellectually honest for the most part. I'm very frightened of you, but you probably knew that already...Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Don't be afraid of me, be afraid of the fact that I'm not alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightWolve
- I'm pro-choice in 100% of cases, I do not consider it a human being entitled to citizen's rights until the umbilical cord has been served and it becomes a self-sustaining organism.
Agree (however, I think killing of a fetus unwilling of the mother is a criminal offense)
- I'm anti-death penalty in all but the most extreme of circumstances, and even then I would only support lobotomizing or some other means of pacification other than death. I believe in rehabilitation when viable and imprisonment for the rest.
Agree Except maybe lobotmozing...I would rather have people killed than a vegatable. I think that the entire prison system needs to be rethinked .
- I against gay marriage for the same reason I am against heterosexual marriage; it is government recognition of a religious activity. I believe the rights extended to people granted under a 'civil union' should be given to all those who enter into the contract regardless of their sexual preference. I also believe these should be the only means by which these benefits are incurred, and that the government should remain suitably distant from religion in all of its forms.
Agree Finally...somebody that sees that marriage should not be goverment sanctioned!!!
- I am pro-welfare because the percentage of those bilking the system is marginal when one looks at the facts. I understand that the only way to help the working poor tweak their cultural mindset from one of poverty to one of prosperity is through a certain level of federal assistance.
Well...I agree with some level of federal assistance, but the welfare structure of today is fucked up. The whole thing needs to be overhauled and there should be benefits setup for those seeking to improve their situation.
- I am pro-affirmative action in that I understand that women and minorities are hindered by established prejudices in our culture. If the only way to help promote diversity and turn us from an exclusive culture to an inclusive one is by forcing the acknowledgement of equal rights and opportunities for others then so be it.
Disagree I agree that women and minorities are hindered by prejudices in our cultures. I disagree with the fact that it is the job of the goverment to deal with these prejudices. It is something that we must deal with on a personal level, and only then will a change be made for the greater good.
- I believe in no censorship whatsoever under any circumstances. Everyone should be free to express their views, opinions, and expressions without fear of being repressed by the governmental entity.
Agree
- I believe morals should be not be upheld simply because of religious brainwashing but because of a mutual understanding for the rights of our fellow human beings. This way we aren't burdened by the moronic superstitious and ridiculous mores that religion has caused to hinder humanity from progressive unity.
Agree
- I believe the media plays a hugely important role in our society and must continue to be open and present a wide array of viewpoints from around the world.
Agree Except the word continue...I am still waiting for the media (especially news) to cover a wide range of viewpoints. Right now we have pretty much one...right and left are just opposite sides of the same coin.
- I am against allowing Corporate America to rape our planet of its natural resources, destroy its environment to the point of making it near inhabitable, and placing an ever tightening strangehold on the American worker. I am extremely pro-workers rights and think that they should have far more power in the workplace than they do now. I think that the government should tightly regulate Corporate America to keep it from gaming the system and using shady trade deals with countries that shamelessly exploit their workers to buy shoddy goods at illegally discounted prices.
I sorta agree...I believe that sustainability of our nation should be a huge goal of our goverment. Protecting our enviroment is worth just about any economic downfall to me. I think that any group of workers should have a right to unionize and strike for whatever reason they think neccesary.
- I am pro-control in that I believe no citizen has a viable reason to be in possession of assault weapons, heavy explosives, anti-armor and anti-material weapons, or anything that goes beyond the bounds of hunting or logical home defense.
Agree Makes sense to me.
- I am an atheist leaning agnostic in that I do not believe in the existence of God, but I'm not arrogant enough to rule out the possibility that I could be wrong. I am totally against organized religion in all of its forms, which I consider to nothing more than antiquated social control surrounded by ignorant superstitions. I do think that people have a right to believe in whatever spiritual system they choose, but it should be a highly personal matter, not a public one. I am strongly against the idea of proselytizing to the underprivileged or disenfranchised with incentives, which I see as very underhanded coercion.
I believe a person has the right to have any belief system they choose, no matter what it is. I personally am an atheist but I have respect for all religions
- I believe the military should now and forever be at the whim of the civilian authority and the people who elected it. I am strongly against nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons proliferation in all countries, including our own. I think the U.S. should spend more time helping reform and empower the United Nations to become the global entity of policing and interdiction that it was designed to be. If this comes at some perceived cost of our 'sovereignty' simply by making our soldiers where a baby blue helmet as opposed to a red beret then so be it. I think that U.S. soldiers who commit war crimes should be subject to international law established at Nuremburg and adjudicated today by the World Court entity.
I am AGAINST the UN. Not because I am worried about some sort of American sovereignty, but because the larger a goverment body becomes the more ability it has to become corrupt. I do not have faith that such a power would do the right thing in all cases and it is also proven to be highly innefectual.
- I believe that anyone on recognized U.S. soil (and three miles from the continental mainland) are entitled to all the rights of a citizen as was set down in the Constitution. This goes for P.O.Ws as well as those deemed to be enemy combatants. Those being held should be immediately granted legal council, and if the evidence against them bears fruit then they should be tried in a court of law.
Agree...sure
What about if not allowing abortion would end in the death of the mother, or the death of both mother AND child?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Politically, I'm half way between a garden variety liberal and a neo-liberal (libertarian). Philosophically, i'm a panthiest determinist humanist.
Hawking quantum mechanics can suck my nuts.
Einstein and Jesus kick arse!
On Welfare
"Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence." - Ronald Reagan.
I believe in a two tiered system, but where public = excellent, and private = excellent + luxuries. Everybody should have access to comprehensive health care and cheap pharmaceuticals. Everybody should have access to well resourced schools. I believe that this is necessary to give everybody the chance to be what they want to be according to their ability and work ethic. Unemployment benefits should actually benefit the unemployed, that is, they should receive benefits only under the condition that they do community services and training in order to acquire the skills they need to gain employment.
Abortion
I am pro-choice, but I believe abortion is a drastic solution to a preventable problem. I think the blame lies in the creation of a society that undervalues sex education because of the belief it will "give teenagers ideas", when in reality, all the ideas come from "that special place". Free condoms for all, YAY!*
*except if your religious, in that case you should practice what you preach and not fuck before marriage.
Separation of Church and State
I am Australian, so this is a non-issue. But on religion, I believe that corporations under the guise of a religion (read: Scientology, Sanitarium, and Church of the Hillsong) should be put under pressure to not practice capitalist ideals and to give substantial charity to the community, otherwise their tax free exemption should be revoked. In it's current state, legitimate churches that actually give back to the community are being marginalised, and corporations that don't front are being punished.
Guns
Guns shouldn't be banned, but those that own guns should be registered.
Drugs
All drugs should be made legal. As the legalisation of drugs will make the manufacture and distribution of drugs a far less profitable business, reducing organised crime; and will also reduce the cost of drugs, preventing the majority of petty crime. However, "hard drugs" should only be legally usable in community run "shooting galleries", where health care workers can ensure that needles are not shared (lessening the strain on the health care system), were overdoses can be prevented, and where intervention (church/community based) can be targeted on users.
Environment
I like it.
War
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
I suppose I'd say I'm more of a moderate liberal.
I don't really believe that abortion is a solution for anything, just another mechanism for our people to dodge responsibility. In my humble opinion, it's aiding in cultural decadence, the idea that problems can simply be nuked rather than dealt with.
I make no religious implications, nor must you assume that I believe rape victims are responsible for their actions. However, I believe that the child is not at fault for what occurred to the mother, and for that I do feel there is a responsibility to at least afford it the luxury of life, rather than let it die as a target of spite or guilt.
Gotta go with Liberal, I'm insanely on the left of most issues, but I do approach things with a centrist, even attitude.
On Welfare
People need help, but people abuse help too. Welfare, and other programs are neccessary, but should do everything in their power to encourage finding a job, or a proper location to make a living wage.
I like the idea of Welfare on a limit personally.
Abortion
Pro-Choice. Religion has no place in this argument, practical beliefs do. If you believe life starts at conception practice what you preach, but the fact is and always will be, impending any right given to a citizen under constitutional law is the crime. Abortion perhaps needs more of a context, but without it, we'd have a lot more problems socially than we do with it. .
Separation of Church and State
Specific religion can have no place in a government for the people. It just can't, and when it begins to take hold becoming as much as majority as republican or democrat, well, kiss the free government you knew in its golden years goodbye cause by default, you are now a totalitarian state.
Guns
Fine people want Guns, its in the constitution. But this is the one program I really wouldn't mind being fedralized. No one needs more than one gun for any reason, unless they are law enforcement or military.
Drugs
Eh. Pot, legalize it already. You could clear the deficit in a year. I hate it all personally, but if alcohol is legal, Pot should be legal.
All other drugs, its far to complicated an issue other than bad, and need to go away.
Environment
Needs to be in the top 3 of issues now that its coming down to global warming crunch time here. Call me a tree hugger if you want, but this is the only planet we got, and all the money, oil, wars, drugs, abortions, videogames, music, and terrorists in the world won't mean shit in about a 100 years when we are sitting about a 100 feet below sea level.
War
Sucks in all its forms.
Especially when we start them.
I guess I am Liberal. I'm what they call Liberal around here anyway, but I'd like to say I am Empirical.
I posted this previously.
My views: I hate centralised government, not because I swear by states rights 100% (I belive something can be controled via a moderate centralized gov't) but because the government has shown, time after time, that it cannot manage itself efficently and thus, should be broken down into more manageable portions and goverened, if only in part (be it large or small) by the states. I belive in less government spending, and less forigen involvement. I think taxes should be as low as possible while still providing (efficiently, which beings us to the first point) what I qualify as modern human rights such as education and health care. I do NOT want the qualified professionals in education or in medicine to see a slash in pay, or a loss of benefits (indeed, this is the fear of the medical community in the US as it's already painfully apperant that those not in private education are compensated little). I wish to first see the systems, in place now, improve in their efficency (defence for instance - 428 Billion a year without the cost of forigen conflict - yet we are still under-equiped in areas like armor? 1.1 Trillion dollars lost over the past 6 years? Thats unacceptable. The consitution is there to make sure the government is accountable for what it does - if the DoD cannot account for its spending, as it openly says it can't, then it is in dire need of reform, not wanton feeding of the worst of our beasts. Public Health Care takes a back seat to this since if DoD and a variety of other departments cannot adequately account for themselves and the tax dollars they spend then there's no reason to belive public health* will work in the United States. Not yet.)
As rules, I belive that everything must be subject to examination and cross examination, everything must have facts, and qualitative evidence supporting it and that all actions of the government, municipal, state and federal, must be endure the burden of proof. Like with science. As a rule, I belive that the nation must be seperated entirely from religion as a secular entity. Faith, the primary tennet of religion, undermines the need for proof or argument. Faith is as such - and accepting policies on good faith (I think of the Patriot act, though not nessisarlly steeped in religion, I belive it was passed more with faith in that the administration would do well with it, than the proof that it would be beneficial to Americans and not infringe on their rights, the ultimate rights of the nation.).
As for hot button stuff: abortion - neither here nor there on my radar. I belive it's possile to see both sides very clearly and attempt to come to a reasonable conclusion. However, since it is such a hot-button issue. Even suggesting that one side or another might have a point immediately discredits you, as a politician or a person of any wieght in their political views, by the opposite side. Saying that you can see some circumstances where abortion would neither be 100% nor amoral - or in fact, more moral than not - immediately puts you into the pro-choice side 100% despite the fact that 99.5 % of the time you find abortion unjustified and morally ambigious. It is with this reason that I stay away from the issue. Nothing can be solved with so many hotheads.
Gay Marrage - I belive all people should be allowed a beneficial civil union. If marraige is a religious insitution then marriage has no place within government. There should be no distinction, in a civil union, by race, creed, color, sex or sexual affiliation. Equal rights, not special rights. It should be the curches desision as to whether or not they wish for gays to marry, as a religious ceremony. It should not be the states or the federal governments role to interefere with that nor should it endorse it with benefits. A seperate civil union can be sought by those who want said benefits which are enjoyed, currently only by heterosexual marriages. I do not belive family values are under attack by this either.
These are some things I belive. You can refer back to this for future political threads -_o
*Public Heath exists in some form in Medicaid and Medicare et al. These institutions are too little for too much. Revisions indeed need to be made. Not just to these systems, but to the method of which these systems are put into place and how they are run on the most fundemental levels. I think this can be said of all insitutions within the government.
Also: On Welfare - I agree with AstroBlue.