Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

I'm fighting the End right now at 4 am. Pretty cool.

This game desperately needs a way for me to look and move forward at the same time. I've gotten right up to the End about twice now without even knowing I was anywhere near him because of the shitty overhead camera. If I could see ahead without having to stop and go into 1st person every three seconds, I would've pegged him from a small distance. As it is, he sees me before I do (even though I literally almost tripped over his old ass) and shoots me point blank.

The game is really good, but this camera is annoying the hell out of me.

5 am fool. We lost an hour at 2/3.

Good call.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I'm fighting the End right now at 4 am. Pretty cool.

This game desperately needs a way for me to look and move forward at the same time. I've gotten right up to the End about twice now without even knowing I was anywhere near him because of the shitty overhead camera. If I could see ahead without having to stop and go into 1st person every three seconds, I would've pegged him from a small distance. As it is, he sees me before I do (even though I literally almost tripped over his old ass) and shoots me point blank.

The game is really good, but this camera is annoying the hell out of me.

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You're the only person I've heard of having this much problem with the camera. What was it like for you playing SoL? Did you spend the entire game looking at the Soliton RADAR screen?

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Originally Posted by g0zen

You're the only person I've heard of having this much problem with the camera. What was it like for you playing SoL? Did you spend the entire game looking at the Soliton RADAR screen?

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I'm chasing The End with a shotgun. As long as he's running into the screen, it's fine. Once he cuts left or right, even though I'm still right behind him, I have trouble seeing him because he's off camera. It's bad.

And yeah, I hated most of Sons of Liberty, it was crap. But when there were enemy soldiers around, I used the radar to see where they were, where they were looking, and how to get past them. That's what it was there for, why would I not look at it?

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Originally Posted by Mzo

As it is, he sees me before I do (even though I literally almost tripped over his old ass) and shoots me point blank.

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Are you using thermal goggles?

poor mzo, he sucks at metal gear :*(

<3 anyway.

seriously though, when he runs past you, don't try to shoot him, just equip the thermal goggles and follow the footsteps that he leaves, then when you get close to him, start sneaking. You'll be able to get close enough to him to pull a gun on him, and if you aim the gun at his head 3 times, you'll get the Moss Camo. Also, If you shoot his parrot (usually you can find him on the very top of the building that has the sniper rifle inside) he won't be able to heal. and you get a yummy parrot. EE!

Also, everyone should check this out. It's awesome >D

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Originally Posted by Satsuki

Also, everyone should check this out. It's awesome >D

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They don't have little rubber froggies, do they? 'Cause I'd buy one of those.

Also, if you wait long enough The End will fall asleep and you can follow the sound of his snoring with your microphone. You can even see the zzzz's coming off of his head.
edit: Or you can go a week without playing the game and he will die of old age. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by MarkRyan

Are you using thermal goggles?

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Yeah. That's how I was tracking him. But to see him up ahead, you have to guess how far off he is (based on the sniping spots), stop, and look ahead with first person view. If the camera was behind Snake, I'd spot him from miles away with the thermal goggles.

I actually think that the game couldn't handle a more flexible camera and maintain a playable framerate. I seriously doubt it was handled this way for "level design" issues. I went back last night and checked out the IGN and Gamespot reviews of it, which were of course very favorable (it IS Metal Gear after all), but they both were sure to mention they had camera issues throughout the game, especially after playing something like Splinter Cell.

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Originally Posted by Satsuki

seriously though, when he runs past you, don't try to shoot him, just equip the thermal goggles and follow the footsteps that he leaves, then when you get close to him, start sneaking.

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My problem was knowing when I was close to him without him getting a shot off. Once he did, his location is on your map and the sneaking may commence, but a couple times I was chasing the footprints when he suddenly shot at me, and I realized he had been about 1 inch offscreen, and I could've tagged him easily had I not gotten so close.

And lol, I did it without talking to anyone on the radio, so I had no clue there was an ammo depot there until AFTER the fight. So I did it all without a sniping gun =X

What I did was get close enough to him to shoot him, light him up, then roll at him as he ran by to knock him down. Then I'd run at him with the shotgun and blast his old ass to hell.

I know about the hearing him snore thing, too, I heard him up on a ledge above me and threw a grenade right on his head. It was awesome.

I got past him, it took like 40 minutes but it was cool. The camera just sucks.