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05 Jan 2005, 06:19 PM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by akumachan

a sleepy little high end suburb of Los Angeles called Agoura Hills.... only minutes from the old GR offices.:sneak:

Yeah, I had seen the addy in the mag.

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Originally Posted by akumachan

LOL, awesome... he still uses that particular trick.

And he still has Julie do his dirty work. But now it's her job to give people his excuses.

Pathetic... same ol' same ol'...
05 Jan 2005, 06:20 PM
mollipen

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Originally Posted by akumachan

and for anyone who hopes he has changed... It speaks highly of you as humans to give Dave that much benefit of the doubt. but its greatly misplaced. The stories of the end of GF so much mirror the end of GR that it makes me shudder.

Here's my thing... I look back through my life at who I was, the things that I've done, and the mistakes that I've made. As I've gotten older, I've changed, I've mellowed on a lot of things, I'm not the same person that I used to be. Did Dave do some things that I thought were really screwed up back when we both worked at GameFan? Absolutely. But I also did some damn stupid stuff myself.

I also know how easy it is to form an opinion on somebody based on pieces of information gained from here or there. There are so many opinions floating around about me that it's crazy. I look at what's been said about me, look at all of the misconceptions that various people have about me, and it forces me to rethink the way I look at other people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some wonderful guy who doesn't dislike anybody and has all this inner peace and all of that crap... I've just learned how easy it can be to get the wrong impression of a person.

Don't take this to say that I think everybody who has a beef with Dave is wrong or whatever. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, and I didn't live in their shoes. Like I said, my experience of him hasn't always been best, but at the same time, I didn't have really direct dealing with him most of the time. What is done is done, and just as I've become a very different person since that point, I'm also willing to believe that he has as well until I'm proven otherwise.
05 Jan 2005, 06:26 PM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

He's probably too scared to come in here... he still has my SE Army of Darkness DVD that he was supposed to get signed by Bruce Campbel and never did. About four years later now, and the bastard still hasn't sent it back to me. *heh*

Doh!

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Originally Posted by djpubba

Ya, but come to think of it, we probably can't call him Monitaur, since he was untitled when Greg designed him. We'll have to just call him "M". :D

Ah well, the thought was nice. And I remember them trying to trademark him anyways...
05 Jan 2005, 06:30 PM
Omni

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Dude, read the thread from the beginning...

I just want more stories.
05 Jan 2005, 06:35 PM
akumachan

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Here's my thing... I look back through my life at who I was, the things that I've done, and the mistakes that I've made. As I've gotten older, I've changed, I've mellowed on a lot of things, I'm not the same person that I used to be. Did Dave do some things that I thought were really screwed up back when we both worked at GameFan? Absolutely. But I also did some damn stupid stuff myself.

I also know how easy it is to form an opinion on somebody based on pieces of information gained from here or there. There are so many opinions floating around about me that it's crazy. I look at what's been said about me, look at all of the misconceptions that various people have about me, and it forces me to rethink the way I look at other people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some wonderful guy who doesn't dislike anybody and has all this inner peace and all of that crap... I've just learned how easy it can be to get the wrong impression of a person.

Don't take this to say that I think everybody who has a beef with Dave is wrong or whatever. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, and I didn't live in their shoes. Like I said, my experience of him hasn't always been best, but at the same time, I didn't have really direct dealing with him most of the time. What is done is done, and just as I've become a very different person since that point, I'm also willing to believe that he has as well until I'm proven otherwise.

I salute you then Shidoshi. If you can feel that way, then you are an honorable human being indeed. And Im not being facetious.

In earlier years, i used to hear a lot of crap about Dave, but then i could never figure out why people felt that way. Needless to say that all of that has changed now.

I can admit that, of course, not all the times I had were bad times either. In many ways, I can even thank Dave for giving me much needed industry experience. But, IMO, it doesnt change the things that he did do to people that were not so nice.

I suppose Im just disappointed in the amount of politics in a line of work where many of us do this out of love for games.

And i can also understand your point about being misunderstood. i have shaped my opinions based pretty much on my own direct dealings with Dave. It just disturbs me to see so many people offer similar situations.

but thanks for the great thread Shidoshi

P.S. I sent you a PM, whenever you have a spare moment.
05 Jan 2005, 06:45 PM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by OmniGear

I just want more stories.

:)

Ok, to finish off the GF '93 Las Vegas CES show trip... So there were lots of shenanigans going on as you might guess and it the excitement quickly wore off for me. So I went down to the cassino and started playing roulette. I actually turned $20 into $90 so I thought well, not really much use for me to be here anyway (I'm not a PR guy or an editor...), so I buy a plane ticket to get back home a couple days early. (The group of us had driven out there). So I get my bags together and I go "oh shit! I cant carry this on the plane!" So when Jay puryear got back to the room I go, "um Jay, do you think I can give you something to take back for me" and had him a small blue bag. He was like, "uh... what is it, Tee?"

I say, "Well dont tell anyone, but um... its a gun." Jay: "A gun?! Are you nuts?! What the Hell did you bring a gun for?!" I dunno, long car trips thru the dessert I always packed heat back then. LOL, more likely I had seen too many movies... So of course Jay told everyone back at the office about and for the next several months heard lots of entertaing comments: "Hey T, you packing?" "Sup, gangster?" "hey, don't shoot" . Hee hee
05 Jan 2005, 07:38 PM
kevincal

how about Game Fanatics?

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Originally Posted by djpubba

If DieHard was good for GameFan, Hardcore is okay for us. The only reason they stopped using the name DieHard in their title later on is because Sears threatened them. For real.

What I don't like about Hardcore Gamer is that it sounds a little elitist. However, unless something better comes along, it's probably what we're going with.

How about Game Fanatics? :D
05 Jan 2005, 07:44 PM
Ex Ranza

Fanatic.. that's too... 1980's..

Not that I have a problem with the 80's :D
05 Jan 2005, 07:44 PM
kevincal

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

:)

Ok, to finish off the GF '93 Las Vegas CES show trip... So there were lots of shenanigans going on as you might guess and it the excitement quickly wore off for me. So I went down to the cassino and started playing roulette. I actually turned $20 into $90 so I thought well, not really much use for me to be here anyway (I'm not a PR guy or an editor...), so I buy a plane ticket to get back home a couple days early. (The group of us had driven out there). So I get my bags together and I go "oh shit! I cant carry this on the plane!" So when Jay puryear got back to the room I go, "um Jay, do you think I can give you something to take back for me" and had him a small blue bag. He was like, "uh... what is it, Tee?"

I say, "Well dont tell anyone, but um... its a gun." Jay: "A gun?! Are you nuts?! What the Hell did you bring a gun for?!" I dunno, long car trips thru the dessert I always packed heat back then. LOL, more likely I had seen too many movies... So of course Jay told everyone back at the office about and for the next several months heard lots of entertaing comments: "Hey T, you packing?" "Sup, gangster?" "hey, don't shoot" . Hee hee

haha too funny. In California..especially down there in LA!, you're never too safe!!! :lol:
05 Jan 2005, 07:59 PM
Dyne

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Originally Posted by djpubba

If DieHard was good for GameFan, Hardcore is okay for us. The only reason they stopped using the name DieHard in their title later on is because Sears threatened them. For real.

What I don't like about Hardcore Gamer is that it sounds a little elitist. However, unless something better comes along, it's probably what we're going with.

id agree with you if "diehard" wasnt used so many years ago. it was fine back then. but since those times things have changed, and anything resembling "hardcore" comes off, as you said, as being elitest. i mean you might as well make something in l33t speak. im not trying to rub elbows, but the name is just as important as the content, especially when starting whatever it is you guys are starting.

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