Itagaki Interview Thread *OFFICIAL*

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Good implies depth.

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No it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Mr_B

I've seen, an played against top tier national tournament players in VF4 and SC2, MVC2 and SF3. Hell, I worked with one in Chicago. I could jump in an be competitive against them. The more I play against these high level players, the more I view them as button mashers, in my eyes. The were fiending all over the place.

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Huh? That statement makes little sense. I am sure as hell confused. The better they are the more they mash? Wha? There is the odd phenomenom in some cases where expert play starts looking more and more like random scrubbery (mainly due to its random component). Or is this about how being good at a game nowadays involves having to spend 8 hours a day in your basement practing combos?

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I just can't take fighting games seriously anymore.

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Even if the games are still solid, the overall community is a joke. Ugh. Would you like to bet it, scrub?! (Shoot me now.)

-Dippy

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Originally Posted by Dipstick

Huh? That statement makes little sense. I am sure as hell confused. The better they are the more they mash? Wha? There is the odd phenomenom in some cases where expert play starts looking more and more like random scrubbery (mainly due to its random component). Or is this about how being good at a game nowadays involves having to spend 8 hours a day in your basement practing combos?


Even if the games are still solid, the overall community is a joke. Ugh. Would you like to bet it, scrub?! (Shoot me now.)

-Dippy

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Back in my day, it didn't matter if you were good, the best or terrible. If you talked shit. You better not walk out of that arcade alone. You were gonna get dealt with. The best players never said a word. They would play and pay their respects after the match, not a word was spoken. If you played cheaply, didn't matter if you won or were beat. You were gonna get beat.

I agree that the solidiness of the genre itself has gotten a whole lot better. I'm just not interested anymore. The community has become a laughable. Some of the old laws, of the community, need to come back and bring some respect back into it.

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If you played cheaply, didn't matter if you won or were beat. You were gonna get beat.

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That's funny because around here, it was always the other way around. The word "Cheap" didn't exist and if you dropped the word "cheap" to anyone, you got dealt with. At least at this one ghetto bowling alley I used to play at as a kid. I remember telling people twice my age that if something was "cheap" then maybe they should stop sucking at the game and do something about it.

Now I just have to deal with coworkers dropping the "C" word. I swear. . people who drop that word are quite simply some of the worst players on the planet.

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

That's funny because around here, it was always the other way around. The word "Cheap" didn't exist and if you dropped the word "cheap" to anyone, you got dealt with. At least at this one ghetto bowling alley I used to play at as a kid. I remember telling people twice my age that if something was "cheap" then maybe they should stop sucking at the game and do something about it.

Now I just have to deal with coworkers dropping the "C" word. I swear. . people who drop that word are quite simply some of the worst players on the planet.

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It's all just a state of mind...

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

That's funny because around here, it was always the other way around. The word "Cheap" didn't exist and if you dropped the word "cheap" to anyone, you got dealt with. At least at this one ghetto bowling alley I used to play at as a kid. I remember telling people twice my age that if something was "cheap" then maybe they should stop sucking at the game and do something about it.

Now I just have to deal with coworkers dropping the "C" word. I swear. . people who drop that word are quite simply some of the worst players on the planet.

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Sorry but this is truth. Somebody actually told me I was cheap for throwing in 3rd strike. I'm glad I don't work with that fucking f-chan anymore. The worst part is that people agreed.

Obviously, inescapable infinite combos that require no skill, are the exception to this rule.

Oh of course. Stuff like say, Slayers command throw loop in GGXX is something I would consider cheap, but I would also consider the person stuck in it to be an idiot if they got trapped in it. Things that I consider to truly fall under the word "cheap" are few and far between. The only other modern example I can think of is MvC1's Chun-Li infinite that consisted of nothing more than qp > qk > stomp to infinity.

We used to play Super Turbo at work until people just stopped playing all together thanks to me. Balrog's headbutt is cheap, Guile lockdowns are cheap, throwing is cheap, baiting is cheap. . everything is cheap to these people. Let me take a quote from my friend Jan's journal and her post "Fighting Game rules for Life" --

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Rule #1: Nothing is cheap
This is the number 1 rule you must not only understand, but overcome if you're ever going to be anything, or be considered to be taken seriously when it comes to any fighting game known to man. I don't care if it's Street Fighter III, War Gods or Project Justice. Nothing is cheap.

I don't care what your rules are. I don't care if you think Sakura's SHOSHOSHO is the cheesiest move in existence. No one else cares, so why should you? Declaring something "Cheap" is saying to the rest of the world "I give up. I suck at this game." You're rolling over dead and admitting failure right there.

If something is cheap, why can't you do something about it? If you believe there is nothing you can do about something, than you have lost the battle before you even put your coin in. It's time to grow some balls and man up. You aren't playing with your kid brother anymore.

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Truth like whoa.