I don't really have a problem with that, I'm sort of a whore already.
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I don't really have a problem with that, I'm sort of a whore already.
Well, I could do media design. I think I'm pretty good at it but I just don't know if I want too. I mean this industry is very bare bones and not very reliant on jobs. I mean I could have a job for the next 2 years and then lose it in a second because now Dreamweaver is 1 button press websites or something. Who knows.
I believe my dad is right about Tradeskills now. Nobody does them anymore because everyone went 'Computers!!!! are the way!!' and now tradeskill people are getting rich. I just don't know if I want to be an electrician for the rest of my life. I mean, I'll make good money and live nicely but I'm an electrician. I will always be forced to say 'Not that there is anything wrong with that!' about my own job.
I think writing could be great if you are clever and figured out ways to be discovered. Either making a kick ass indy film on a cheap budget (ala Napoleon Dynamite which made millions now) or just bugging the shit out of execs until they bring you in. (Like mailing them a script everyday until they read it)
He IS right. That's why I said earlier that if this is the route you want to take, go to school to learn how to an HVAC technician or electrical contractor or something, and take a few writing classes while you do it. Or really like the idea of teaching school instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonas
As for magazine or newspaper writing, the way almost everyone gets started is by writing pro bono at first, and then getting a staff position, but there is always something to be found.
By the way, why don't most of you graphic design people work prepress when you get out of school? It's a great way to get a large portfolio, and I can't seem to find a printer that doesn't need a graphic designer.
I'm seriously considering getting on an off-shore drilling rig and doing some roustabout work while getting a journeymans licence as a welder.
That or I could do something with this footzul I found. I don't know how to use it though.
Well I'm getting a Computer science BS degree and there are quit a few places that asked for intern work as well as future jobs for them at the University. I'm also minoring in Graphic Design where I will go with that.... I dunno.
I plan to go to grad school for my CS degree to get my Masters at least.
Yikes, so much hate towards graphic design in this thread! I was going for my degree in graphic design as well, but I've decided to change my mind (not for any reasons stated in this thread) and go with illustration instead.
Man, this is without a doubt, the single most insightful and lucid thing you have ever said. I'm so proud of you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
It doesn't hurt to have a grasp of the basic rules such as color theory and gestalt. These are things that will make you a better artist, and no matter how good you are, there is always room for improvement. Plus, the thing that's cool about a fine arts education is that it is pretty well rounded, so you learn skills in other artistic fields allowing you to branch out into other things if you wish.Quote:
I think that going to school for just about anything design related is a waste of time.
I know that I am completely ignorant on this but, IMO, if there was ever a major out there that gets a :rolleyes: reaction from me its music. I can forsee a ton of possible careers with a fine arts degree, but I don't see anything coming out of a music degree, except composing (the coolest option) for tv, movies, games, playing in a band/orchestra, or as the majority of music majors I know tell me they're going to end up doing: being a music teacher. I guess it's all about the passion for music, because those kids are hyper competitive and they run them ragged in that department. Then again, like I said, what the hell do I know.
The chances of a kick ass indy film coming from typical indie filmmaker stock is about as high as a high school basketball player making the NBA.Quote:
I think writing could be great if you are clever and figured out ways to be discovered. Either making a kick ass indy film on a cheap budget (ala Napoleon Dynamite which made millions now)
So your saying there's a chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The main reason people study music is to hone their skills and network with other people as serious as they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
You usually have to work your way up to that position from junior designer to senior to Art Director to Creative Director. CD's don't usually do hands on work, they just tell people a vague description or set of rules you're to follow and they instruct the people below them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satsuki
But it's different at every place. My placement and soon to be place of employement has 2 CD's who do everything themselves in a hands-on fashion. But yeah, typically you have to have a good design background or be a copywriter. They're going to hire someone who's proven themselves in the company or another company in the industry.
I've seen a new person become an Art Director before. They're basically the campaign idea people who work with the seniors to get the work actually done. The juniors are beneath the seniors and are basically their monkeys to help them out. Once juniors start pitching good ideas that are used once and awhile they get promoted. Art Directors usually move around a lot so that's how seniors will get to become an AD. CD's are harder to move out of their positions but every few years a company usually changes theirs to freshen their image with new blood.
Copyrighters are usually women or homosexuals from what I've heard :lol: and my teachers told me to look into copyrighting.
It sounds like an Art Director position. You always fill out different roles as they come along in the design and advertising industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satsuki