No one is forcing anyone to become drug addicts, murderers, rapists, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
People are still responsible for their own actions and choices- that is the secret behind success and failure.
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No one is forcing anyone to become drug addicts, murderers, rapists, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
People are still responsible for their own actions and choices- that is the secret behind success and failure.
Zerodash, did anyone help you get through life? Like, say, your parents? Did you have any teachers that were inspiring and helped you? Did you go to a school that had a music program and other niceties? Did you have the opportunity to do community service if you wanted to go to a really top school? Virtually everyone who ends up being successful can point to people in their past who helped them reach their potential.
If Im a smart black kid in the ghetto, chances are one of my parents is gone or in jail. My school is a slum and the teachers cant do their job properly. Which means that my SAT scores probably wont be as good as the successful white people, which means I cant get into the top schools. And even if I did, my parent couldnt afford to send me there, anyway. There were 800 black students at UCLA, out of 32,000 undergrads. Are you going to try to tell me there's only 800 black students in the entire state of California smart enough to go to UCLA?
Look at all the statistics... SAT scores are lower in poor neighborhoods, test scores arent as good, college admission rates are lower, etc.
The opportunities arent there for the low-class minorities. They're just not. When I was at school I did all sorts of volunteer service and it was sad how, if someone like me starts off at square one, theyre at like square negative ten. Like I said, these are things that are easy to ignore if youre a well-off white kid from the suburbs but that doesnt mean they dont exist. You undoubtedly got help that you dont even realize, shit a lot of people dont even have.
Meanwhile, walk into a Burger King, McDonalds, etc. nowadays and tell me what type of people you see. I live in the straight up suburbs and all I see are blacks and Mexicans. Nevermind what you see in CA. Then walk into a typical corporate office park and see what type of people you see... its a fucking joke, but not a funny one.
I would say the opposite, definitely. I went to a high school in a predominantly white (and well-to-do) neighborhood, and in comparison to the schools I visited that were overwhelmingly minority, our place and most other HSes like us were total dives. Minority schools get shitloads more funding and access to many more scholarships than non-minorities do, and employers are given more incentives to hire them; the opportunities are very much being put in front of them, they just have to work to grab it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_
Why? What is the benefit to the world? I would only agree if the implication is that white people of lesser qualifications are being hired.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It's more a mental thing on the behalf of people in minorties now. In this day and age, educated people with high paying jobs have no problem working along just as well educated members of minorities. Businessmen, doctors, programmers, non of them care about race. All they care about is money. Green is the only color that matters to well educated people.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_
I'll take the opposite argument. Intelligence is at least somewhat genetic. If you're a dumbass, you're going to have a shit job and live in a bad neighborhood. Thus, your genetically dumbass kids will grow up there as well. It's a chicken and egg discussion, but the world is not this evil place that is out to get minorities. They need to stop looking for excuses and pull themselves up.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
You cant see what is beneficial to having more people getting good educations and working good high paying jobs is? Are you that stupid/racist/Republican?Quote:
Why? What is the benefit to the world? I would only agree if the implication is that white people of lesser qualifications are being hired.
And whats with the second sentence? Are you saying that minorities are automatically less qualified?
So every black person living in the ghetto is automatically dumb? And every white person living in the burbs working an office job is intelligent? You cant be fucking serious. Every office Ive been to in my life has a lot of dumb people.Quote:
I'll take the opposite argument. Intelligence is at least somewhat genetic. If you're a dumbass, you're going to have a shit job and live in a bad neighborhood. Thus, your genetically dumbass kids will grow up there as well. It's a chicken and egg discussion, but the world is not this evil place that is out to get minorities. They need to stop looking for excuses and pull themselves up.
Unless Im very very smart (like 95th percentile smart) Im not going to go far in this world without a good education. A good education is an equalizer... it turns moderately smart people into successful people. It turns very smart people into very successful people.
Its not about excuses, its about the fact that something they need is not there.
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Originally Posted by IronPlant
Who cares. The guy who wrote this article is an idiot.
MOST black kids areent dorks who get off from controlling the world from their computer.
There outside playing sports, getting strong, and getting the laidies.
Nice non-answer. What are the benefits for minorities. "More people" doesn't involve racial lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
No, I am saying that the most qualified person should always be hired. If that person is white 99% of the time, tough shit. If that person is black 99% of the time, then great.Quote:
And whats with the second sentence? Are you saying that minorities are automatically less qualified?