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It's been proven, over and over again, that amount of funding is irrelevant to the quality of the school. Washington DC spends more per student than any place in the country and its a shithole. It takes more than money.Quote:
As I said, many times their schools get a lot more funding than non-minorities.
You're in Mississippi. Of course everyone there is stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
This thread makes me want to see a reality TV show where they take a student struggling from an education in a poor school district (Not some troubled douche bag, someone who doesn't act out and who wants to try for a better life) and switch him with someone in a school "better off" and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Thief~Silver
They'd get eaten alive. I know, from experience. I was top of my class at an incredibly poor school district. Worked my ass off. Move to a school that is like top in the state. All of the sudden I'm way behind, and I work my ass off, but I was never able to effortlessly get the outstanding grades of kids who have grown up in the district. Not to mention things like having real lunches instead of state provided ones and having quality equipment in extracurricular activies. Its a real cultural shock.
Well then, suggestions?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I'd be more interested to see one where they took the student body of a school in a minority sector, and switched places with the students of a school in a primarily white one, keeping the same teachers in each place. I bet you anything the outcome would be about the same as they are in their original schools, and that the teachers and facilities have no bearing, it's the attitudes of the kids that dictate how well they do.Quote:
This thread makes me want to see a reality TV show where they take a student struggling from an education in a poor school district (Not some troubled douche bag, someone who doesn't act out and who wants to try for a better life) and switch him with someone in a school "better off" and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
desire and passion are the key
Accountability and better teachers. Schwarzenegger tried to approve a plan for merit pay for teachers, I think he got eaten alive. Sad, since its a good start.Quote:
Well then, suggestions?
No way. Good teachers make such a huge difference. There were subjects I hated, HATED until I got a good teacher in the subject. They forced me to work, but I liked to work, because they showed me why the work was so good. Im sure if you ask any reasonably successful person if they had any influential teachers they will name some.Quote:
I bet you anything the outcome would be about the same as they are in their original schools, and that the teachers and facilities have no bearing, it's the attitudes of the kids that decides how well they do.
Like I said, good education is an equalizer. It can turn a bright but unmotivated student into a great student and a very successful person, especially if youre a bright kid in a bad neighborhood. People all too often think that people in bad neighborhoods with bad schools just need to work hard, like the only people worth a damn in those places are the ones that turn out to be Russell Simmons or P. Diddy. Nevermind that most people in good schools are of average intelligence and maybe slight motivation that just got a good education and went to a good college and got a good job and thats that. Those same people have a much greater chance of getting eaten alive in the ghetto because they dont have that education.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
none of that shit matters if children don't have a good perspective about learning. If a kid doesn't want to learn, he won't. You can throw all the money you want at education and it doesn’t matter one bit if the only things the kids can think about is going home so they can play GTA, smoke a blunt and banging some bitches.
Both sides of this debate have good points. My views lie more with Diffx, but yes, personal responsibillity will get you ahead. The problem is that in a lot of cases, these kids don't see the way out. They are stuck in a dark cave. The government throws some flashlights down to them, but the batteries barely work. Some are lucky enough to find their way out, but not nearly enough.
Yes, it's not the government's responsibility to hold everyone's hand in this country. But if you honestly don't want to help those that are less fortunate than yourself, then I don't see how you can live with yourself.
I'm black and the product of the ghetto. I didn't have the same opportunities as some of my contemporaries at college. But I turned out alright. Not making a ton of money yet, but that's mostly because of the field I chose to pursue (music). But I see many people struggling everyday. And not all are unintelligent, welfare-abusing, five-kids-having, lazy niggers like Yoshi seems to believe 99% of us are.
There should be a study done that takes two kids, one from the 'burbs and one from the projects, and gives them equal opportunities throughout their entire school carreers. Not just switching them after a certain point. I mean from pre-school on through the end of college. Then we can see where they are after. Maybe even switch their opportunities; giving the ghetto kid much more and the 'burb kid much less. I'd love to see what happens.
Back on-topic, this isn't so much to equalize the workforce, but to at least get some varied stories out there into the field. This same thing goes for movies. For the most part, white writers and directors make movies for/about white people and their own experiences. Which in and of itself isn't a bad thing.
But this isn't about that.
It's about getting another perspective out there. And since we see that whites create stories for whites mainly, it would make sense that blacks would make stories for blacks, and on down the line of minorities.
Look at Japan. With the exception of games that are Americanized, all of their games have japanese leads. Not to be unexpected, right? And that's another thing. The americanized japanese games that are released are in some cases worse on minorities, but I guess that can be expected as well.
Sure you can say whatever you want about hiring only the best employee, but that's not the main issue here at all. It's just a plain fact that you relate more to those that look more like you. That includes TV, movies, and at this point, video games. I know I did growing up.
No one is in trouble. No one is being called a racist. Having blacks being gangstas and such wouldn't even be such a big thing if there was another perspective being portrayed out there, just to counteract it. Which there really isn't.
Is there anything wrong with wanting to see more diversity in the games that are being released?
Fuck off. You don't know me, my history, or anything else about me. Stop being a victim and take responsibility for your own life.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx