Two New Handhelds From Korea

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

But that wasn't how it was set up by default. In fact, now that I think about it, you had to hold down the right mouse button to even do a mouselook. By default it would make you walk forward. It was Doom controls, like I said. Sure, later sourse ports and such did it right, but the original version of Quake 1? Nah.

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That's true, that's the way it was set up by default.

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That's how Quake was originally conceived. This was before WASD and Mouselook were the standard. I don't want to hear anything else. I know it's not the best way to play but don't tell me it doesn't work, because it was the only way you could play it in the original. And you can do a Rocket-jump fine that way. I did it all the time.

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Actually, you could set up the controls for WASD and mouselook, but you had to either add '+mlook' to the autoexec.cfg, or type it in the console. It wasn't in the options anywhere.
Anyway, that's how I've always played it.

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Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

somebody is selling a gp32 on another board. basically mint for $80. it's the non-backlit one. is it a good deal or just pay the extra cash for one of these?

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I would say hold out for the GP2X, but if you really want a GP32, that's a fair price.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Stuff like AvP is better handled by a more specialized emulator than MAME. Something like Kawaks or Final Burn.

Anyway, the GPX2 came out this week and they already got the thing playing NeoGeo, Gameboy, SNES, Commodore 64, Quake, Hexen, and Quake 2, and playing DivX movies nicely without resizing. Even has built in TV output, which I didn't realize. Seems to be delivering on its promise of being a homebrew dream.

http://gp2x-emulation.dcemu.co.uk/files/snes1.jpg http://gp2x-emulation.dcemu.co.uk/fi...p_download.jpg
http://archive.gp2x.de/cfiles/screen...gp2x-quake.png

Alot of the stuff is slow or incomplete, but considering they're the result of less than 3 days work, I can forgive them. Most of them aren't taking advantage of both CPUs yet nor any ASM optimization and estimates are that they should get 4-8x faster as they develop.

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Dang, that looks nice! Thanks for the update, Frog. And as you said, it'll be amazing to see updates. If'n we never get a decent MAME for PSP, this might be the first Korean handheld I buy....

I think MAME is going to diappoint. MAME is retarded demanding. MAME is a documentation project. It's about extreme anal accuracy and attention to detail, so it needs all the CPU juice it can get. I mean there are games in MAME that can't crack 10fps even on the best CPUs on the market today. It makes no sense to port it to a handheld when there's faster arcade emulators that might play less compared to MAME on a top of the line system but will certainly play more on a weak one.

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Interesting take on MAME, makes sense though. What CPS2 games have u tried on your GP?

I don't have one. Not yet anyway. And that's not my take, it's the official stance of the MAME team. They've said it's about preserving games and accurately documenting how they work, more than playing them. From the front page of MAME's site:

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Even though MAME allows people to enjoy the long-lost arcade games and even some newer ones, the main purpose of the project is to document the hardware (and software) of the arcade games. There are already many dead arcade boards, whose function has been brought to life in MAME. Being able to play the games is just a nice side-effect.

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It sounds strange, but they take that philosophy very seriously, which is why MAME will never support graphical enhancements, speed hacks, etc, and also why it's the most accurate emulator for almost every system it supports.

It does use output filters, though.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

It does use output filters, though.

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Actually, that's a feature of MAME32, not the MAME base. There's ports that do all kinds of neat stuff not endorsed by the MAME team.

This will seem like a stupid question but... were can I get one? And how much is it?

thx

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Originally Posted by MajinRyu

This will seem like a stupid question but... were can I get one? And how much is it?

thx

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Lik-Sang should have them in stock around the end of the month, and they're US$180.

EDIT: Guess not. It looks like they sold through all their preorders for the first shipment, and are now taking preorders for a second shipment arriving in the new year. I'll check a few other sites, but I wouldn't count on getting one this year.
This place might have them, and Play-Asia is apparently accepting preorders.