Probably a PR goon.Quote:
Actually somebody was typing for him, so that guy was the lazy one.
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Probably a PR goon.Quote:
Actually somebody was typing for him, so that guy was the lazy one.
Anything that's multiplayer. Maybe even anything single player; I don't like the idea of not being able to play my games because I left my HDD at someone's place.Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
I wonder what the Halo crack has to do with anything? Can it be assumed that, since I've never played Halo (beyond a day or two, when I realized I had no use for it), I'm a $300 Core System buyer? That I'm not hard core? That the $400 system's capabilities are beyond my grasp?Quote:
Q: Why even offer the core package, its seems quite useless
A: great question! the thing to remember that while we designed a no compromises game system, a huge percentage of our customers are not like the folks in this chat room. recognize that more than 75% of the folks on xbox have not played halo. by introducing the core system we are sending a signal to the market that we are committed to this part of the market just like with the xbox 360 premium bundle that we are committed to you.
Well shuck my darn and call me a goober! Guess I gotta get me some of that Wally World action going. Hyuck!
James
I'm pretty sure he meant that there's all kinds of gamers out there, even ones that haven't played Halo. If you look at the numbers, only something like 15% of all Xbox's are even on Live.
They're all avid Blinx and Azurik players.
I like how he's trying to tout having two SKUs for the X360 as "growing the market". By that kind of logic, if I cut a five dollar bill in half I'll have ten dollars!
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
The harddrive thing seems to be getting the most heat, but really it has more to do with the fact that the HD is detachable rather than being included in one box and not in another. Even if they only had one SKU, the fact that the HD is detachable automatically makes it optional. Devs from day one have been told that their games must gracefully deal with the presence/removal/insertion of the HD, MS wont let their game get past validation otherwise. So even if every 360 had an HD any dev wanting to use the HD must also have a fallback for the lack of an HD, so it really doesn't matter if one pack has an HD and another doesn't.
Having said that, any dev who's game suffers from excessive load times will take advantage of the HD or suffer the wrath of consumers who ponied up for the HD (and rightfully so).
I'd be willing to bet that the fact that it's removeable in the first place has more to do with selling it separately than it does with any "direct response to the hard core gaming audience."Quote:
Originally Posted by outRider
:lol: Goes without saying. Who the hell was asking for a removable hard drive in an age of memory cards & online file transfers? It doesn't even make sense. The hard drive's removable for two reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
1. Marketing, AKA Peter "hey, I've got a career to save here" Moore, wanted the $299 price because he knew his market would be limited if they were stuck at $399. Accounting/finance came in and said "that's fine, hit $299, but we've got to stop bleeding money, so take out the HDD."
2. I believe they had this planned from the exact second they decided to make the HDD removable - HDD is the one component that doesn't go below a certain point in price, so it affects your ability to stay competitive with price cuts. I'd bet MS is still losing money on their $150 Xbox, but Sony's making a small margin on PSTwo. The core system will let them gain access to the mass market with the magical $99 price a whole lot sooner than a standard HDD would (ie., not in the system's lifetime).
I don't think they were lying when they originally said they were only gonna have one box at launch, they probably didn't want to do the core system until later. I'd bet there were a lot of battles fought at MS over this, and the tag-team of marketing & finance won & Gates sided with them. But the detachable HDD was purely a business side, not gaming division decision.