There are no traditionally 'white' nations. To make that sort of claim you would have to somehow prove commonality between Caucasoids. Since biologically this is impossible (race itself is not a genetic distinction, but a social one) and sociologically equally difficult (Caucasians split themselves between Mediterranean, Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, etc.) the concept that 'white' Europe is being invaded by 'non-white' is really more conspiracy than reality. In fact, it's more of a nativist backlash than a true confrontation of races.Quote:
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This isn't a racial argument it's a classist one. What you're saying is not that these 'non-whites' are resented because they aren't white, but because they are poor and form what Marx called the 'reserve army' of unemployed that snatch up low-paying jobs. The idea of this breaking down cultural identity is not necessarily a racial argument either.Quote:
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Take, for example, the 1800s influx of Germans, Irish, Italians, and Poles to the United States. These are all 'whites' in that they are of European descent, yet when they arrived the 'native' Americans of European descent were very vocal in saying these immigrants were snatching up jobs and balkanizing urban areas by refusing to integrate into the larger culture.
Those have more to do with culture than race. The Indians and Japanese do not have necessarily racial pride as much as nationalistic pride. For example, Japanese don't view other Asians as their kinsman even though racially they are of the same 'distinction'. They are non-Japanese because they were not born in Japan, this is NOT a racial distinction.Quote:
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Because Caucasians, as a cultural group, are in the majority and control the power systems. Their interests are clearly represented in government, religion, and economics worldwide. Once again, you're obfuscating a classist problem with a racial one. Ask Bill Gates or George W. Bush if they feel that America takes there interests into account, or if it has in any way taken away their 'right to self-determination'.Quote:
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Certainly there is a large number of whites who feel disenfranchised, but is that really because of a racial divide or an economic one?
I've yet to see an Italian or Irish pride parade painted as being supremacist motivated, even though they are essentially celebrating their racial and cultural identity.Quote:
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Another component of this is that interracial marriages are on the rise worldwide. The idea that 'whites' will be extinct is ridiculous, because as I said being caucasian is not a genetic trait. European culture, which is what is really the issue here, is also not going anywhere. Look at the world today; which culture determines the fashions, politics, etc.?Quote:
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This is a status quo that IS white (European Anglo-Saxon), but is also wealthy and wants stability. That is why they are against the idea of solidarity along 'racial' lines among the impoverished Caucasian community, who makes up the bulk of America's poor.Quote:
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This is a racial stereotype like any other. Welcome to the club, every 'racial' group has to deal with these.Quote:
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