Older PC games?

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Originally Posted by NApOLm321

Rise of the Triad was brilliant back in the day. I didn't have a lot of exposure to video games back then, aside from some mainstream SNES titles, but damn that game rocked. Me and some kids begged our daycare lady to buy this for her computer for a solid week, and she finally caved in. I wish I could play it again.

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I regarded it the way most at the time seemed to; a bad, tastelessly violent, and horrendously unoriginal attempt to clone Wolfenstein 3D with juvenile, unfunny humor (the main character was named I.P. Freely), and an engine that was light years behind Doom, which had already been out for a while.

The story behind it isn't much more flattering. It was basically designed as a sequel to Wolfenstein, except they didn't have (at any point) the rights to make such a Wolfenstein game, and when they couldn't secure them, they lopped an arm off the shwastika and called the Nazis "The Triad". It was designed by a man who quit id software because he felt Doom was too violent, and the VERY NEXT thing he made was this piece of shit that featured a warning about its "Wanton and Gratuitous Violence" and had features like "Ludicrous Gibs" mode which would have body parts flying at the player (sometimes one person's death would result in multiple bloody heads).

It was a playable game, if horendously unoriginal, with no unique gameplay ideas, but it did nothing better than any other FPS released at the time, with weaker technology than others at the same time. Why reccomend that instead of Doom, Heretic, Duke 3D, Quake, or anything else?

If you haven't played the Thief, Fallout, or Hitman series, or any Lucas Arts adventure games there's no reason not to. You can buy all of those for like 10 bucks in digipak form at Best Buy or Circuit City I think.

For some reason, the original Unreal Tournament reminded me quite a bit of Rise of the Triad...

Anyway, get some point and click games. Discworld, Day of the Tenticle, the King's Quest series, Full Throttle, Sam and Max, all good stuff.

Acctually ROTT had a lot of things that other engines could not do at the time, and I believe they DID have the rights to do the project but they were pulled a few months after the dev process started...

OH, and it did sell several hundred thousand copies

Shogo

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I regarded it the way most at the time seemed to; a bad, tastelessly violent, and horrendously unoriginal attempt to clone Wolfenstein 3D with juvenile, unfunny humor (the main character was named I.P. Freely), and an engine that was light years behind Doom, which had already been out for a while.

The story behind it isn't much more flattering. It was basically designed as a sequel to Wolfenstein, except they didn't have (at any point) the rights to make such a Wolfenstein game, and when they couldn't secure them, they lopped an arm off the shwastika and called the Nazis "The Triad". It was designed by a man who quit id software because he felt Doom was too violent, and the VERY NEXT thing he made was this piece of shit that featured a warning about its "Wanton and Gratuitous Violence" and had features like "Ludicrous Gibs" mode which would have body parts flying at the player (sometimes one person's death would result in multiple bloody heads).

It was a playable game, if horendously unoriginal, with no unique gameplay ideas, but it did nothing better than any other FPS released at the time, with weaker technology than others at the same time. Why reccomend that instead of Doom, Heretic, Duke 3D, Quake, or anything else?

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Well... it kicked ass in 2nd grade. The graphics were way better than doom if i remember correctly.

2nd grade? Christ.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Isn't that like putting a spoiler on a Pinto?

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I did it at a time when the computer wasn't outdated, and Windows XP just came out. Everything ran much better and it was a sale on RAM, so I got it all for the same price as 256.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Rise of the Triad was a terrible game that was a notorious bomb. Where does this posthumous cult following come from?

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I loved it when it was out. My friends and I had lots of fun playing it multiplayer, especially with the "remote ridicules"

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

2nd grade? Christ.

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Seriously... I think I was in high school when that came out.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It was a playable game, if horendously unoriginal, with no unique gameplay ideas, but it did nothing better than any other FPS released at the time, with weaker technology than others at the same time.

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That's not entirely true. It did introduce being forced to make weapon selections (an idea later wrongly attributed to being pioneered by Halo by a good amount of press and consumers) and had a much wider and more interesting weapon selection then any other FPS on the market. I can't think of anything else in the genre at that time that gave you the ability to shoot walls of fire, duel wield weapons, or had something along the lines of their interesting take on god mode. The burnt-to-a-skeleton animation was also an incredibly detailed death sequence back then, that was the first FPS I can remember that had more then two death animations for most of its creatures (although the exploding and burning ones were interchangable amongst the various enemies).

As an overall game it might have been shit but there was still a lot of good ideas throughout. They also did some great stuff with the levels considering the engine (surpassing on a technical level Wolf3D and Doom by a huge margin), although I do remember it being pretty confusing and poorly laid out overall.

ROTT was the first "online" game I ever played. My friend Dave and my friend Brett lived right across the street from each other, and we'd send someone to Daves house, and someone to Bretts house and dial the other computer directly to play against each other.

I remember it having some kind of "mushrooms" mode or something where it got all psychadelic looking. And was there an evil dog or something? It's been awhile.